The Oldsmobile Connection

[speedy266]

I came home from uni on the weekend, put a new air filter on the olds and put the front scoupe back on it sticks out past the rad and sorta gets air in it after it enters the grille and deflects into it. I got alotta pics that ill be putting up of the engine ripped apart and of the beautiful olds and couple this weekend with the scoupe. Anyways so im on the highway and i decided to give it a run, noticed a bit of a difference with the scoupe there was a lumina behind me and he kept right up behind me at 130km/h so i gun it and start to pull away, he was keeping up but i was still slowly pulling away, i have no idea wat model or year it was, still was fun. Superchips makes a chip for me, hopefully i can get my hands on one this summer it'll be about $240CAD.

http://www.zzperformance.com/zzp/products/electrical/gm_85mm_maf_sensor.htm

wondering if this MAF would fit my ride looks like the right connector in the picture??

[Brando]

Yea, the connector does look similar to what we have, I am sure if you emailed zooomer@aol.com (the address they have listed) they could tell you if it would work or not.

TOC Admin
Brando

[speedy266]

Ive seen lots of MAF sensors that take the exact same connector. I think that they would fit our cars, the only problem is the size, usually performance MAF sensors are alot shorter than stock, so it wouldnt be a direct replacement, there would have to be some extra intake tube piping. If anyone knows, my MAF is the heated wire type, regardless of size, do GM heated wire MAF with the same connector work the same? with the same voltage etc and can be interchanged? Cause if that is true granitelli makes em for various gm engines the LT1/LS1 has the same connector

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/images/artlr/350330small.jpg

Just wondering if the ecu will still be able to read the correct amount of air coming in. Thanks

[88 Coupe]

Hi speedy266, hello all,

Quote: ............. Just wondering if the ecu will still be able to read the correct amount of air coming in ........
No problem as the aiflow will not be changed.

The engine will only use the air it needs, regardless of the size of the intake.

Regards, Norm

[speedy266]

hey 88coupe,
What i meant was, could i take another MAF sensor that would fit my connector for the current MAF i have and still have the car run fine. Nobody makes an larger diameter MAF sensor with no screens for my application, so im guessing maf sensors cannot be interchanged because the eletrical components work different with different voltage changes?

[88 Coupe]

Hi speedy266, all,
Quote: What i meant was, could i take another MAF sensor that would fit my connector for the current MAF i have and still have the car run fine.
As I've said before, I know little about the electronics involved.

My Knowledge of the fuel/air requirements of the internal combustion engine, however, tells me you cannot improve on the OEM ignition and/or induction system.

Do you think the manufacturers spend millions of dollars on R&D and then not use all the power/fuel economy they found?

Having said that, I doubt anyone has researched such a question.
Since you are in unfamiliar territory, your best bet would be to find a friendly parts counter man to help you search his catalogues.

Google is always a good tool. :lol:

Regards, Norm

[speedy266]

Yah i'll have to find out, i know alot of the Grand National guys convert to LS1 MAF sensors by they require a convertor of some sort that somebody makes. I find parts counter people to be very dumb, unless theyve been working with cars/parts for a long time, they'll usually say no without even knowing for sure, or suggest the wrong things, or think there right when you know there wrong.

[88 Coupe]

Hi speedy266,all,

Quote: ............ the Grand National guys convert to LS1 MAF sensors .............
Along with internal engine mods that increase the air requirements. You always need to look at the whole package.

Quote: ............ I find parts counter people to be very dumb ............
I'm talking a local mom and pop store that has been there for some years.

If they are not as sharp as possible they will not have the edge on the large chains (dumb counterman stereotype), and will not stay in business.
First you need to get to know them, and they you. That means making them your parts store.
The extra you might pay for the parts is an investment that will give you a large return in automotive education.

When my local Kragen/Autozone/Pep Boys/etc, have problems, they call my local supplier, knowing they'll get the right answer from anyone who answers the phone.

If you ask informed and intelligent questions you'll learn far more than you will on the internet.

The downside is: they'll probably give you the same answers that I do. :lol:

Regards, Norm

[speedy266]

lol yah you do know alot, how old are you?

[88 Coupe]

Quote: ............. you do know alot, how old are you?
:lol:

Old enough to have outgrown any problems accepting constructive criticism.

Old enough to listen and ask questions on the subjects I don't know, and only to speak in those areas I do know.

Part of the learning process is realizing that some of ones information might be incorrect or out of date and one needs to appreciate any factual corrections.

Figuring out who to listen to and who not to, has been and will be my biggest problem. :lol:

FWIW: "I was told" or "I heard" are examples of what not to listen to.

Regards, Norm

[speedy266]

I was reading a site on the 3.4L and i came across this...

"Some others are to buy a larger, less restrictive MAF sensor from Granatelli Racing. This part was designed for LT 1's, but will work on our cars as well"

So maybe its quite possible, maybe it'll be easyier to find out if the 3.8L and 3.4L can share MAF sensors.

[88 Coupe]

Hi speedy266, all,

Quote: .............. maybe it'll be easier to find out if the 3.8L and 3.4L can share MAF sensors.
It's your time and money.

Regards, Norm