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speedy266



Joined: 25 Jun 2003
Posts: 347
Location: Ontario, Canada

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 12:56 am    Post subject: Air condition!!  

Ok im getting my engine rebuilt, but before i install the engine again i wanna take out the AC, the compressor, the belt, and the lines and that round long tank (not sure wat its called). ive decided to leave the AC condensor so it protects the rad from rock chips and road debris. I was just wondering if i take out the AC parts will the windshield defogger stop working? its a 1985 olds cutlass ciera 3.8 litre. My father told me that he thinks it might make it stop working, im gonna try reading the service manuals, any suggestions?
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strokercutlass



Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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Location: Wis

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:11 am    Post subject:  

speedy...the biggest problem you're looking at is that if you remove the AC compressor, you'll have to try and find a replacement belt that will be shorter, unless your car doesnt run a serpentine belt. If it does, i'm not sure you'll be able to route the belt properly without the AC compressor in there. I cant remember what year they switched over, but if it has a standard V belt, that doesnt run anything else besides the AC compressor, you should be OK. As far as the defroster not working, thats normally controlled by vacuum on those cars, so if you pull the AC compressor, the belt, the hoses, and accumulator (round silver thingie :wink: ), and leave the rest, you should be OK.
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86Delta



Joined: 06 Nov 2003
Posts: 281
Location: NJ, USA

Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2003 1:12 am    Post subject:  

it should still work, the defroster works in cars that the AC is dead in, so i don't see why it wouldn't work for you. it may not work as well, but it will work i think.
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speedy266



Joined: 25 Jun 2003
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Location: Ontario, Canada

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 5:09 pm    Post subject:  

Ya for my belts i have 3 separate ones, the most inner one is from the crank pully to the AC compressor pully, the middle one is from the crank pully to the power steering, and the outer one is from the crank pully to the alternator but inbetween it also turns the water pump pully. im glad i dont have the one belt design u see on almost every car these days. so takin the belt wont be a problem, i was just wondering if the AC lines were used for any sort of transporting of air for one of the functions but im guessing its not.
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Psyco Diver 69



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
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Location: South NJ

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 10:04 pm    Post subject:  

Why do you want to pull it out??
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speedy266



Joined: 25 Jun 2003
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Location: Ontario, Canada

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 11:28 pm    Post subject:  

well the AC compressor is always gettin spun by the belt 24/7 and theres no use for it watsoever cause it does not work and i dont really need it anyways. so if i take the belt out there'll be more power for the engine and better fuel effiency if i take out all the AC components because alltogether its quite heavy.
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Psyco Diver 69



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
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Location: South NJ

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:16 am    Post subject:  

the compressor runs on a clutch so acctually you'll lose very little power unless you turn on your AC which will cause the clutch to engage in your compressor. So basically you won't notice a change in power at all and you won't pic up any power. I would personally keep the AC for hot days, if you plan to race just turn it off
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speedy266



Joined: 25 Jun 2003
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Location: Ontario, Canada

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 12:38 am    Post subject:  

well like i said, it totally doesnt work, and mechaics cant seem to find the problem, i think its a leak in the condensor or something, but ya, im not sure anymore, i feel like keeping it now and fixing it later lol oh well i'll see wat happens
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Primer Death



Joined: 08 Jun 2003
Posts: 102
Location: Maine

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 9:43 pm    Post subject:  

I was going to hook up a paint ball gun to my AC compressor and mount it behind the grille...the grille drops down the the guy in front of my get pelted! :twisted:
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Brando



Joined: 06 Jun 2003
Posts: 3051
Location: Michigan, USA

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2003 10:02 pm    Post subject:  

Primer Death wrote: I was going to hook up a paint ball gun to my AC compressor and mount it behind the grille...the grille drops down the the guy in front of my get pelted! :twisted:

:laughing: Now that's a good idea...not sure what's wrong with my AC either....don't even think the compressor works anymore.

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88delta88



Joined: 09 Jun 2003
Posts: 2401
Location: Canada

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2003 10:47 am    Post subject:  

I saw a car in which some one actually did that. I have no clue what the internet address was, but he actually wired up solenoids to fire it for him from inside the car! It worked good, but i wonder how the acuracy was!

Let me know how that works, I really wanna see it!
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85cieraholiday



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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Location: West Haven Connecticut

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2004 5:33 pm    Post subject:  

I think you could take it out because lots of old cars have dead a/c and the defroster still works. My dad's 87 Grand Am coupe had a dead a/c and the defroster worked.
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