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99jordan
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| Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: Best Engine to put in 1984 Delta 88 royale? |
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| just rcvd a 1984 delata 88 royale frm friend. i want to upgrade but need help....... |
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nalc
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:41 am Post subject: |
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| What transmission do you plan to use? How much are you willing to spend? Do you know how to swap engines? What do you want to use the car for? A fast daily driver? A weekend toy? A dedicated drag racer? You'll want a different engine for each. |
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GraveReaper0
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| A 455 big block. :D |
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99jordan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: |
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| i drive the car almost everyday, yes i drive a little faster than others. its something i want to have for a long time. no i don't know how to swap engines i just want to spend under 2500 |
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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GraveReaper0 wrote: A 455 big block
Assuming you mean Olds, yes, a 455 is a big block.
Now, why did you post a suggestion when you do not even know what his needs are?
Are you aware, that by following your advice, he can expect to lose 40 to 50% of his gas mileage? That can be dealt with, but it will affect his budget. Oh, but we don't know what that budget is, do we? |
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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Hi 99jordan, hello everyone,
Welcome to TOC.
99jordan wrote: ........ i want to upgrade ........
I think your use of the word "upgrade" has caused some confusion. What did you mean by it?
nalc wrote: What transmission do you plan to use? ........
Until his goal is defined, a trans choice cannot be made.
99jordan wrote: ........ i drive the car almost everyday, yes i drive a little faster than others. its something i want to have for a long time ........
OK. Reliability and longevity are priorities, and racing is not a factor.
99jordan wrote: ........ i just want to spend under 2500.
OK. We have a budget. Now what (if anything) do you want the car to do different, in exchange for that cash?
Regards, Norm |
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99jordan
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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| i want it to basically last, like i said i know little about this. thats 1 of the reasons i joined for some tips. i want a fast engine but reliable. i dont know what kind of trans or anything |
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88delta88
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 4:31 pm Post subject: |
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| why not rebuild, or if nothing is wrong, build-up your current engine? |
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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99jordan wrote: ........ i want a fast engine but reliable .........
Now we are talking tradeoffs. More power = Higher maintenance, less reliable, and a shorter life. We need to know how fast you want to go, and how much reliability, driveability, comfort, and gas mileage do you want to give up to do it?
Also you need to know that "fast" does not come from the engine alone, but a well planned combination of complimentary mods to the rest of the car.
Quote: ........ i dont know what kind of trans or anything
The question was not relevant and should not have been asked.
88delta88 wrote: why not rebuild, or if nothing is wrong, build-up your current engine?
Isn't that question the topic of the discussion?
Norm |
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nalc
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| Posted: Fri Aug 11, 2006 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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88 Coupe wrote: The question was not relevant and should not have been asked.
Well, if he has a weak transmission and doesn't want to replace it, that will affect his motor choice. |
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88delta88
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 2:52 am Post subject: |
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88 Coupe wrote:
88delta88 wrote: why not rebuild, or if nothing is wrong, build-up your current engine?
Isn't that question the topic of the discussion?
Norm
Norm, I think he wanted to replace the engine, as I read it. He hasnt mentioned anything about what hes currently got. |
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: |
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99jordan wrote: ........ like i said i know little about this. thats 1 of the reasons i joined for some tips ........
It's refreshing to meet someone who is honest about their knowledge level. Communication in this medium can be a major problem, so have patience, do the best you can, and we'll do the best we can.
nalc wrote: What transmission do you plan to use?
88 coupe wrote: Until his goal is defined, a trans choice cannot be made. 88 coupe wrote: The question was not relevant and should not have been asked.
Well, if he has a weak transmission and doesn't want to replace it, that will affect his motor choice.
A weak trans (if there is such a thing) would need to be changed, regardless which engine was used.
Your question (as it was asked) only confuses the issue. If you want to discuss it further, either PM me, or start a new thread.
88delta88 wrote: I think he wanted to replace the engine ........
Thread title is "Best Engine to put in 1984 Delta 88 royale?". That may, or may not, be the one that's already in it.
88delta88 wrote: ........ He hasnt mentioned anything about what hes currently got.
I don't believe he knows. His profile says 307, but that has no bearing on what his "best choice" might be.
Everyone:
Based on the information we have so far, my first choice would cost a minimum of 3x his 2500 budget. We need to narrow it down a bit.
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99jordan
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 1:47 pm Post subject: |
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| rebuilding wouldnt be bad. yes i want to be reliable and long lasting. i dont know the quality of the current engine but i know its needs to be upgraded. i need that extra push nothing thats gonna make it live shorter. like i said thats 1 of the reasons i joined so i could get alittle help.i enjoy the car very much.i know its job thats gonna take time, but im in for the long haul... |
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: ........ yes i want to be reliable and long lasting ........
Gas mileage? How about interior sound levels while cruising on the highway? How much comfort do you want to give up?
Quote: ........ i dont know the quality of the current engine ........
Does it leak, smoke, or use oil? Are there any problems you are aware of?
Quote: ........ i need that extra push, nothing thats gonna make it live shorter ........
OK. I think that's covered.
Quote: ........ im in for the long haul.
Good, we're getting there.
Norm |
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GraveReaper0
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| Posted: Sat Aug 12, 2006 9:48 pm Post subject: |
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88 Coupe wrote: GraveReaper0 wrote: A 455 big block
Assuming you mean Olds, yes, a 455 is a big block.
Now, why did you post a suggestion when you do not even know what his needs are?
Are you aware, that by following your advice, he can expect to lose 40 to 50% of his gas mileage? That can be dealt with, but it will affect his budget. Oh, but we don't know what that budget is, do we?
Man, you on your rag? |
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