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GraveReaper0
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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87Delta wrote: Brando wrote: That's all they are...
We took a 800 watt mono block subwoofer amp to my old ones, they didn't last long. :lol:
Grave, Keep the fronts on headunit power, add some bass blockers, and find a 2 channel amplifier for the 6x9's.
Uh, what's a bass blocker, and why would I need it if I'm keeping them stock? |
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Brando
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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87Delta wrote: Brando wrote: 87Delta wrote: If you get a 4 channel, make sure it has a high pass filter for your front speakers. 3.5's cannot handle much bass at all. I wouldn't want anything below 200Hz playing on them things.
I'd say even higher then that.....maybe 600hz
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Heh, that will basically make them things oversized tweeters :lol:
But, even with head-unit power the 3.5's are gonna need some bass blockers.
Or he could use the high pass crossover built into his new HU.
Yes, I would just power the 6x9s off a 2 channel amp...
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Brando
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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GraveReaper0 wrote: 87Delta wrote: Brando wrote: That's all they are...
We took a 800 watt mono block subwoofer amp to my old ones, they didn't last long. :lol:
Grave, Keep the fronts on headunit power, add some bass blockers, and find a 2 channel amplifier for the 6x9's.
Uh, what's a bass blocker, and why would I need it if I'm keeping them stock?
bass blocker is just a capacitor, it's a 6db/octave high pass crossover.
You don't need them because your new HU has digital high pass crossovers built in.
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87Delta
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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Brando wrote: Or he could use the high pass crossover built into his new HU.
Wasn't aware his head unit could separately do the fronts and rears. Mine is for all 4. |
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GraveReaper0
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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| Alright cool, keeping the front stock, amp for the back. What about tweeters? Would I notice a big difference if I hooked them up, and how do you hook them up? |
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Brando
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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87Delta wrote: Brando wrote: Or he could use the high pass crossover built into his new HU.
Wasn't aware his head unit could separately do the fronts and rears. Mine is for all 4.
Yea, I don't see any designation for front or rear in the manual....brilliant.
In that case, I'd get a very small 2 channel amp for the fronts.
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87Delta
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:04 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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:lol:
Mines a generation older then Graves Panasonic. I can't adjust the front and rears separately. Ya know, I got an old Rockford-Fosgate Punch 30 that might work excellent with 3.5's. |
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Brando
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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Yea...I'm looking for a new amp for his fronts...but I think old school is the only way to go to power them puppies...
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87Delta
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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Brando wrote: Yea...I'm looking for a new amp for his fronts...but I think old school is the only way to go to power them puppies...
Yeah, I might part with mine since I have no use for it. Also got an older Jensen 40x2. 8-) |
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GraveReaper0
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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| :o So what's the dealio? Now I need two seperate amps? I thought those fronts can't take much power, why even bother? |
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87Delta
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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GraveReaper0 wrote: :o So what's the dealio? Now I need two seperate amps? I thought those fronts can't take much power, why even bother?
Because,
External Amp > Internal (headunit) Amp |
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Brando
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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An external amp is 100x better than the HU's amplifier....although some of the Panasonics have class T amps built in, that one doesn't. Just a regular ol mosfet amp in there....distortion of 100% @ 1 watt...lol...not that bad, but an external amp is much better.
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GraveReaper0
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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| So what am I looking for, like a small 200 watt amp for the fronts? whats the max power those fosgates can take? |
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87Delta
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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GraveReaper0 wrote: So what am I looking for, like a small 200 watt amp for the fronts? whats the max power those fosgates can take?
200 is waay too much for the fronts. The Cardomain page says the max those 3.5's can handle is 30 watts. :confused: Would you be interested in an old school Fosgate Punch 30? |
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GraveReaper0
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2006 4:46 pm Post subject: Re: How to give more juice to your 6x9s?? |
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87Delta wrote: GraveReaper0 wrote: So what am I looking for, like a small 200 watt amp for the fronts? whats the max power those fosgates can take?
200 is waay too much for the fronts. The Cardomain page says the max those 3.5's can handle is 30 watts. :confused: Would you be interested in an old school Fosgate Punch 30?
30?
But the output of the HU is 50, so its gotta take more then 30. And what do you got? A link maybe to the specs, how much with shipping to chicago? |
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