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88 Coupe



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

91buickman wrote: ........ so you dont have the ability to ........
So, you cannot find what you said you would.

91buickman wrote: ........ the FWD heads in question are 3800 series 1 heads ........
OK.

91buickman wrote: ........ not LG3 which is before the series 1 ........
OK.

91buickman wrote: ........ LG3 is the same engine code in the RWD GN and the FWD GM 3.8 v6 ........
OK

What is an LM9 or an LC2?

91buickman wrote: ........ so get your facts straight ........
What has been unstraight? Post the quotes.

91buickman wrote: ........ and yes the 3800 series motors to have more flow potential than the LG3 GN heads ........ projectheavytouring wrote: ........ the FWD 3.8 heads are BETTER then the GN's ........
Potential? Not what he said.

91buickman wrote: ........ but were talking LG3 remmber? ........
You are being childish again.

projectheavytouring wrote: ........ if you've got a Vin3 .. no problem.. if you've got a Vin C or up ...you've gotta play with 3800 stuff ........
BTW: He ended the same thread with this.

91buickman wrote: ........ or do i need to remind you of what you said? ........
Yes you do. Post the quotes.

91buickman wrote: ........ look atyour replies ........
Post the quotes.

91buickman wrote: ........ the childish remark was ........ 88 Coupe wrote: 91buickman wrote: ........ read your statments above ........
Quit acting like a child. Post the quote, then follow it with your response .........
You were acting childish.

91buickman wrote: ........ The Gn motor is ........
Off the subject, again. In the real world, HP numbers are all but useless.

91buickman wrote: ........ so you speak for everyone now huh ........
If not, someone will be along to correct me.

91buickman wrote: ........ ill end it and tell you ive driven both. thats why i can talk ........
Did you collect any valid numbers? Or did you use your azz dyno?

91buickman wrote: ........ I never mentioned azz dyno anywhere ........
You did not have to.

91buickman wrote: ........trying to belittle me ........
I have been replying to your posts. Nothing more, nothing less.

If you think different, post the quote.

91buickman wrote: ........so to simplify this ........
Have I said anything to the contrary?

If so, post the quote.

Norm
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91parkave



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:36 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

I got all my ideas acrooss and backed them up. im not goonna keep posting about opinions and all that crap because it dosent help this thread if you have anything to ask me on a factual nature then PM me otherwise theres no need in taking this any further
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88 Coupe



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

88 Coupe wrote: ........ What is an LM9 or an LC2? ........
It is a simple question.

Any, internet educated, Buick V6 expert should be able to answer it.

91buickman wrote: ........ and backed them up ........
You have not backed anything up. Here or anywhere else on TOC.

If you have, and I missed it, post the link.

Norm
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91parkave



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:50 pm    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

[quote="88 Coupe"] 88 Coupe wrote: ........ What is an LM9 or an LC2? ........
It is a simple question.

Any, internet educated, Buick V6 expert should be able to answer it.

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sorry i didnt get my education about these engines from the internet.
here you go though youll find it through wikepiedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buick_V6_engine
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91buickman wrote: ........ and backed them up ........
You have not backed anything up. Here or anywhere else on TOC.

If you have, and I missed it, post the link.

Norm

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well see what other people have to say about this
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88 Coupe



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:38 pm    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

88 Coupe wrote: 91buickman wrote: ........ LG3 is the same engine code in the RWD GN and the FWD GM 3.8 v6 ........ ........ What is an LM9 or an LC2? ........
The question is to clarify your statement. You have not answered it.

91buickman wrote: ........ well see what other people have to say about this ........
If you cannot find one, be man enough to say so.

Norm
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87Delta



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

91parkave wrote:
LG3 is the same engine code in the RWD GN and the FWD GM 3.8 v6's so get your facts straight.

Uhm, no it isn't. Different engines, different engine codes. Get YOUR facts strait....

LG3 - N/A 3.8 liter
LM9 & LC2 - Turbo 3.8 liters

:wink:
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91parkave



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

88 Coupe wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: 91buickman wrote: ........ LG3 is the same engine code in the RWD GN and the FWD GM 3.8 v6 ........ ........ What is an LM9 or an LC2? ........
The question is to clarify your statement. You have not answered it.

91buickman wrote: ........ well see what other people have to say about this ........
If you cannot find one, be man enough to say so.

Norm

LOL norm youre to funny man, be man enough? man were on a internet forum and for the last time get my name right or ill just nickname you clown and roll with it from here on out. Your engine codes that you askeed about, you could have easily looked up instead iof asking me. but the Lm9 is the "hot air" non intercooled turbo 3.8 engine if memory served it was like 84-85, your Lc2 is the last version of the turbo 3.8 which they had in the firebirds in 1989-1991 i believe.
happy?
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91parkave



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

87Delta wrote: 91parkave wrote:
LG3 is the same engine code in the RWD GN and the FWD GM 3.8 v6's so get your facts straight.

Uhm, no it isn't. Different engines, different engine codes. Get YOUR facts strait....

LG3 - N/A 3.8 liter
LM9 & LC2 - Turbo 3.8 liters

:wink:

:lol: back at you, Norm referred to the "hot air" 3.8 turbo which is in the 85's the 86-87's are turbo and intercooled and have the engine code....drum roll please.........................LG3!!!!! the Lm9 is the 89. So before you jump on the bandwagon make sure youre on the right one.
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88delta88



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Posted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 11:32 pm    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

91parkave wrote: ....the l67 gen 3or 5 m90 eaton robs up to 50hp on the top end while the Turbo motor isnt taking any. ...

Why do you think this is true? Arent you an advocate for free flowing exhaust = more power? A turbo, would, in turn be limiting the flow of exhaust to spool itself, no?
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91parkave



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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 12:41 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

read http://www.turbomustangs.com/turbotech/main.htm#turboprinciples
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88 Coupe



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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 2:37 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

91buickman wrote: ........ http://www.turbomustangs.com/turbotech/main.htm#turboprinciples
Which part addresses the question.

Post the quote.

Norm
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88 Coupe



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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

91buickman wrote: ........ Your engine codes that you askeed about, you could have easily looked up instead iof asking me .........
Yes, I could have.

91buickman wrote: ........ Lc2 ........ firebirds in 1989-1991
When were they used in Grand Nationals?

Norm
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91parkave



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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

88 Coupe wrote: 91buickman wrote: ........ http://www.turbomustangs.com/turbotech/main.htm#turboprinciples
Which part addresses the question.

Post the quote.

Norm

clown, I didnt want to waste space typing about A/R ratio's, Split exaust housings, diffrent turbo designs, compressor maps and so on.
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91parkave



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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:20 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

88 Coupe wrote: 91buickman wrote: ........ Your engine codes that you askeed about, you could have easily looked up instead iof asking me .........
Yes, I could have.

91buickman wrote: ........ Lc2 ........ firebirds in 1989-1991
When were they used in Grand Nationals?

Norm

Clown if youre reading comprehension were on point you wouldnt ask me the question when its posted 2 times above. lc2's werent in grand nationals unless they were retrofitted. Lc'2 were used in the turbo firebirds and trans am's. The intercooled LG3 was the 86-87 GN. Simple enough?
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88 Coupe



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Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Re: L67 engine swap into 87 A-body  

91parkave wrote: ........ I didnt want to waste space typing ........
Or, because the answer is not there?

If you only post the part that answers his question, you would probably "cut and paste" one paragraph, or less.

Norm
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