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88_Cutlass · Joined: 05 Jul 2007 Posts: 17

i have a 2002 Alero, its got a 2.2L 4 cylinder engine in it. i was wondering if there were any companies that made a compatible supercharger for it.

91parkave · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 516

http://www.mantapart.com/

88 Coupe · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Supercharged Alero

91buickman wrote: http://www.mantapart.com/
Where is the supercharger listed? Do they even sell superchargers?

mantapart.com FAQ wrote: Turbos & Superchargers- These are great power boosts for engines, as long as the engines are prepared for it. They require better internal parts to withstand the increased heat and pressure ........

........ The problem with them is that fuel injected cars need modification to their sensors and fuel control systems to provide adequate fuel and spark control to make use of their power and not damage the engine in the process ........

........ we do not feel there is a really reliable and developed controller for your cars at this time ........

........ right now the cost of these systems and their reliability concerns keeps us from advising their use ........
It doesn't look like they do.

Norm

91parkave · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 516

I apologize for my incomplete reply heres the rest of the reading one should do before thinking about supercharging the 2.2
http://www.ecotecpower.com/forums/read.php?f=4&i=3242&t=3061#3242
turbo kits
http://www.turbo-kits.com/cavalier_turbo_kits.html
and the supercharger kit
http://paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=167186

88 Coupe · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 4:36 am Post subject: Re: Supercharged Alero

91buickman wrote: ........ http://www.ecotecpower.com/forums/read.php?f=4&i=3242&t=3061#3242
turbo kits ........
Which part tells about the controller for the '02 Alero application?

91buickman wrote: ........ http://www.turbo-kits.com/cavalier_turbo_kits.html ........
Cavalier only. Looks like it agrees with this one.

paceperformance.com wrote: 91buickman wrote: ........ http://paceperformance.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=167186
........ This kit does not fit other GM cars that have the Ecotec engine. Programming is only available from GM for Cavalier and Sunfire models ........
Cavalier only. They agree with this one.

mantapart.com wrote: ........ we do not feel there is a really reliable and developed controller for your cars at this time ........
Looks like everyone is in agreement. Except, 91buickman.

Norm

91parkave · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 516

cavalier is a j-body vehicle as is the alero its like comparing the bonniveille to the park ave- engine wise- theres no diffrence but the sheetmetal on the outside, As for engine managment there are choices out there.

dumb&dumber wrote:
Looks like everyone is in agreement. Except, 91buickman.
in agreement with what? for 2.2 02' motors there are supercharger and turbo kits out there which is what the OP asked for. Straight to the point.

andrewk · Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 1228 Location: Ames, IA

91parkave wrote: cavalier is a j-body vehicle as is the alero its like comparing the bonniveille to the park ave- engine wise- theres no diffrence but the sheetmetal on the outside, As for engine managment there are choices out there.

Uhh...

Quote: This kit does not fit other GM cars that have the Ecotec engine. Programming is only available from GM for Cavalier and Sunfire models

91parkave · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 516

91parkave wrote: cavalier is a j-body vehicle as is the alero its like comparing the bonniveille to the park ave- engine wise- theres no diffrence but the sheetmetal on the outside, As for engine managment there are choices out there.

Quote: This kit does not fit other GM cars that have the Ecotec engine. Programming is only available from GM for Cavalier and Sunfire models Sorry but what about that is retorical?[/quote]

BTW yes the hardware fits the ecotec engine as stated but for EMS you have to look elsewhere

88 Coupe · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 7:28 pm Post subject: Re: Supercharged Alero

91buickman wrote: cavalier is a j-body vehicle as is ........
Not relevant. OP wants a supercharger for his '02 Alero.

BTW, Have you got that that T04 up and running on your Buick yet?

91buickman wrote: ........ As for engine managment there are choices out there ........
You posted three sources that disagree with you. Now, post one that is actually fits the needs of the OP.

91buickman wrote: ........ there are supercharger and turbo kits out there ........
Not according to the following site:

mantapart.com FAQ wrote: ........ we do not feel there is a really reliable and developed controller for your cars at this time ........
The correct controller for the application, is part of the kit. Without a controller, it is not a kit.

91buickman wrote: ........ which is what the OP asked for.
Unless it is compatible with his '02 Alero, it is not what he asked for.

Here it is, again:

88 Coupe wrote: ........ Which part tells about the controller for the '02 Alero application? ........
Norm

sean000 · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:42 pm Post subject: Re: Supercharged Alero

Anyone know if you can get a supercharger for a buick 231 for my 83 Olds?

91parkave · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 516

dumb&dumber wrote:
Not relevant. OP wants a supercharger for his '02 Alero.

BTW, Have you got that that T04 up and running on your Buick yet?

Thtas the beauty of GM's platform sharing, what fits the cavalier will fit the alero.

as for my turbo someone made me a deal on it i couldnt resist, and i wanted a slighty smaller A/R on the exaust side with a internal wastegate anyway. Im waiting for my intercooler, and my 4t60-HD trans :twisted:

dumb&dumber wrote:
You posted three sources that disagree with you. Now, post one that is actually fits the needs of the OP.
They all fit if he chooses to pursue the forced induction route. once again the alero uses the 2.2 the kits stated above are for the same engine, diffrent car but same application. What about that do you not understand?

91buickman wrote: ........ there are supercharger and turbo kits out there ........
Not according to the following site:

mantapart.com FAQ wrote: ........ we do not feel there is a really reliable and developed controller for your cars at this time ........
The correct controller for the application, is part of the kit. Without a controller, it is not a kit.
[/QUOTE]

So then why do they have the 2.2 pictured with a supercharger? that means that there is PCM programing available

91buickman wrote: ........ which is what the OP asked for.

dumb&dumber wrote: ........ Which part tells about the controller for the '02 Alero application? ........

Im sorry but i provided the links, just as easy as it was for me to find it the op can also find the engine mangement of choice to suit him or better yet you could look for him and actually help the thread....are we done here or do you have more usless quotes to fill up the forum with?

88 Coupe · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: Supercharged Alero

91buickman wrote: Quote: This kit does not fit other GM cars that have the Ecotec engine. Programming is only available from GM for Cavalier and Sunfire models Sorry but what about that is retorical?
Rhetorical is a fancy way of saying, the kit does not fit his '02 Alero.

91buickman wrote: ........ BTW yes the hardware fits the ecotec engine as stated ........
BTW: We all know it does. It is common knowledge.

It has nothing to do with its use on his '02 Alero.

91buickman wrote: ........ for EMS you have to look elsewhere
And we will be waiting for you to post a link to it.

Norm

91parkave · Joined: 29 May 2007 Posts: 516

sean000 wrote: Anyone know if you can get a supercharger for a buick 231 for my 83 Olds?

first off do you want to stay carbed? or go for EFI?

88 Coupe · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 8:54 pm Post subject: Re: Supercharged Alero

sean000 wrote: Anyone know if you can get a supercharger for a buick 231 for my 83 Olds?
I suggest you start a new thread.

Mods?

Norm

88 Coupe · Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 9:57 pm Post subject: Re: Supercharged Alero

91buickman wrote: ........ Thtas the beauty of GM's platform sharing ........
You already said that. It does not help the OP.

91buickman wrote: ........ diffrent car but same application ........
Different car, different application, different subject.

If it was the same application, they would be selling that kit for the '02 Alero.

91buickman wrote: ........ What about that do you not understand? ........
The part where you say there is a kit for the '02 Alero, but you cannot show it to us, or tell us who sells it.

91buickman wrote: ........ why do they have the 2.2 pictured with a supercharger? ........
Because the kit is for Cavalier/Sunbird. If it was for a '02 Alero, we would have given him some of the many links that would be all over the internet.

91buickman wrote: ........ that means that there is PCM programing available ........
That means it will be easy for you to post a link to one of the many suppliers who sell the controller for the '02 Alero.

91buickman wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: ........ Which part tells about the controller for the '02 Alero application? ........
i provided the links ........
Do it again. Everyone missed them.

91buickman wrote: ........ just as easy as it was for me to find it the op can ........
So, are you saying, every time anyone asks a question we should tell them to "Google" for the answer?

If you actually found a relevant source, why are you telling the OP to "Google" for it? Why not just post the link?

91buickman wrote: ........ are we done here ........
From the looks of it, so far, I think we are just beginning.

Here it is, again:

88 Coupe wrote: Here it is, again:

88 Coupe wrote: ........ Which part tells about the controller for the '02 Alero application? ........
Norm