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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 4:09 pm Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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91parkave wrote: ........ what about headers with stepped primaries? ........
What about them?
Or is it up to us, to guess which statement/comment you are asking about?
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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91buickman wrote: Also thought i'd include this article ........
Out of common courtesy, it is customary, for one to post the link, with a short description of the contents, along with a one or two sentence excerpt, relating to the actual topic.
The goal of this simple exercise, is fourfold: 1. To avoid wasting bandwidth. 2. No one likes to read through a long winded "cut and past" (one method of obfuscation, used by BS artists) looking for anything that might actually apply to the topic. 3. To keep confusion (the BS artist's most useful tool) at a minimum, by adding only information that is actually relevant, to the topic. 4. To give the rest of us an opportunity to verify its origin, and that the BS artist has not edited his "paste" to fit his own agenda. The fact that 91buickmans "cut and paste" does not contain anything useful, provides us further proof that he has an agenda, but, no clue?
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91parkave
Joined: 29 May 2007
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:58 pm Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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88 Brain cells wrote: 91buickman wrote: Also thought i'd include this article ........
Out of common courtesy, it is customary, for one to post the link, with a short description of the contents, along with a one or two sentence excerpt, relating to the actual topic.
Ok, understood.
88 Brain cells wrote:
The fact that 91buickmans "cut and paste" does not contain anything useful, provides us further proof that he has an agenda, but, no clue?
-Idiot
Yea seriously i wake everyday to plot against people over the internet, just makes my day
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:06 pm Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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91buickman wrote: ........ Think outside your box ........
Quit daydreaming about boxes, and try to keep up with the rest of us.
91buickman wrote: ........ just to name a few, are all in this article, how do you not see that? ........
Point out the part that deals with this topic.
91buickman wrote: ........ wouldnt a clear perspective on how headers work give a clearer picture to better understand the topic at hand?
The question is straight out of the "high pressure sales" manual. It is phrased to divert attention from the fact that the premise has nothing to do with the topic. In this application, the goal is to exhibit knowledge that one does not possess.
The answer, to the question, is: No.
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 6:19 pm Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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andrewk wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: But how could that affect the corresponding sound waves?
Wouldn't the sound waves be moving faster and before the gases move from the cylinder? ........
They would.
andrewk wrote: ........ I don't think it would affect the sound waves at all-
It would not.
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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91buickman wrote: ........ I wasnt calling you out or anything ........
"calling one out" sounds like something that belongs on a street corner, or a schoolyard. Or maybe in a gathering of "ricers".
91buickman wrote: ........ just trying to understand where your coming from ........
Questions and answers are the basis for accurate communication. That is what a "discussion" board, such as this, is all about.
91buickman wrote: ........ I was ^asking^ if 4-2-1 designs or stepped primary designs, offer more sound db's over a regular header or manifold design.
Already answered in the original thread. http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23976#23976
Here it is, again:
88 Coupe wrote: 91buickman wrote: ........ find a set of headers ........ Waste of money. They will not be any louder than the original head pipe.
Try to keep up with the rest of us.
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 10:38 pm Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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91buickman wrote: ........ i wake everyday to plot ........
No plotting involved. If all BS artists were able to plan that far ahead, there would not be any BS artists. You simply make it up as you go along. If you ever bothered to put any thought into your posts, your many ruses would be less transparent.
But, if that happened, you might get laughed at a little less, and gain a bit of respect at the same time.
91buickman wrote: ........ against people over the internet ........
Not limited to the internet because, for a BS artist, it is a way of life. This is because, for compulsive liars, truth is an unknown commodity. So much so, that he/she sees nothing wrong with the practice, because they actually believe everyone else does the same.
One of the quickest ways to recognize a BS artist, is to note his/her frequent demands/requests for proof when someone offers a different perspective.
For example: http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=23990#23990
91buickman wrote: ........ because of this effect, im curious to see any factual data behind this as well.
The reverse also applies: Proof is alluded to, but never produced. For example:
http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21170#21170
http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21174#21174
http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21178e#21178
http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21235#21235
http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21495#21495
http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=21518#21518
Take your pick:
88 Coupe wrote: 91parkave wrote: ........ actually theres been many studies on how turbulent flexible tubing is. smooth bends and couplers get the best results ........ Cite a couple.
It's in there.
And when nothing else works:
http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24085#24085
91buickman wrote: ........ I have plenty of basis on which i call you a B.S artist ........
An "empty threat" is used as an attempt at intimidation. These can sometimes be useful on a streetcorner, but not on the internet.
91buickman wrote: ........ PM me if you want the truth.
Not worth my time, we already have the truth.
And the BS artist, has nothing.
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91parkave
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 12:53 am Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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| It seems you cant follow simple directions......P.M me then you can post it another thread for discussion instead of continuing your B.S parade in another persons thread. |
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88 Coupe
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| Posted: Sun May 04, 2008 2:49 am Post subject: Re: Do headers make a car louder? |
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91buickman wrote: It seems you cant follow simple directions ........
It seems you can't keep up with the rest of us.
A special thread has already been started, specifically for you (and others like you) to tell us how you are the innocent bystander, and Norm is "picking on you" for no reason.
Here it is again: http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=24089#24089
If you cannot post it, because you do not have it, we will understand.
91buickman wrote: ........ P.M me then you can post it another thread ........
Does anyone else see something wrong with this picture?
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