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oldsmobile420



Joined: 21 Dec 2003
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Location: pa

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 10:52 pm    Post subject: need help wit history on my car  

where can i find the history on my car and what do the little flags on the side of my car by the cutlass cirea mean any help would be great
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Brando



Joined: 06 Jun 2003
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Location: Michigan, USA

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject:  

Ooh...I remember seeing an article on the flags...I'll see if I can find it...

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Brando



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Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject:  

Couldn't find out about the flags...but here's a little info on your car...
http://encyclopedia.classicoldsmobile.com/cutlass/ciera/88.html

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88Ciera_SC



Joined: 10 Jun 2003
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Location: Columbus Ohio

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 1:16 am    Post subject:  

i've heard that the flags represent the "international series" but for some reason i cant explain,i dont believe this explenation, not that 2 words really explain anything at all.

ciera's where made in canada and u.s. only, to my knowledge, so you'd think there would only be 2 flags there..

i'm starting to believe that it's just a fancy emblem that means absolutely nothing.

the "FE3" emblem on the trunk lid on the other hand is a whole different BEAST,especially when coupled with the 3.8L and 4 spd.tranny.
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OldsGuy



Joined: 16 Feb 2004
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Location: Lees Summit MO

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 8:40 am    Post subject:  

Flags where just for looks, no particular meaning except for a marketing attempt. FE3 is the designation for the suspension package.
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85cieraholiday



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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Location: West Haven Connecticut

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 4:38 pm    Post subject:  

Production info...
Ciera Production... base-12,920 coupes,
127,353 4-doors,
11, 779 wagons

Brougham 2-door- 4608
4-door- 78423
wagon- 5401

International 2-door- 4564
4-door- 5687
2.5 litre 4 cylinder- 98 hp@4800 rpm and 135 of torque@3200 rpm

P.S to those interseted, I have production #s, hp and torque rateings, information, weight, etc info for Oldsmobile 1946-1998, so if u need to know how many of your cars there were, or how many gallons your gas tank is, let me know!! :D
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Psyco Diver 69



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
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Location: South NJ

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:16 pm    Post subject:  

85cieraholiday wrote: P.S to those interseted, I have production #s, hp and torque rateings, information, weight, etc info for Oldsmobile 1946-1998, so if u need to know how many of your cars there were, or how many gallons your gas tank is, let me know!! :D

Oh yea, give me all the info you have on a 72 442 w/ 200hp 350 dual exhaust th350 floor shift tranny and 3.73 10bolt posi, green with white stripes, power steering and power brakes. Come on tell me something I don't know (I hope you can, I love to learn new things)
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88delta88



Joined: 09 Jun 2003
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:22 pm    Post subject:  

here's a question slightly off topic, but nonetheless related to olds history...

What does 442 stand for? I've been told once that it meant 4BARREL 4SPEED 2(DUAL)EXHAUST.

Or does it have a meaning at all?
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73Delta88



Joined: 08 Jun 2003
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Location: Western Massachusetts

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 6:42 pm    Post subject:  

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/1972olds442/what_does_442_mean.htm
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88delta88



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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 3:47 pm    Post subject:  

Cool! Good to know, although I dont think the last statement can be true... 4cyl 4valve 2cam... I think there would be more than 4 valves in there... even if it were 4 valves per cam, most 4cyl engines are at least 12 or 16 valve...

Who knows...

Thanks 73delta...
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Psyco Diver 69



Joined: 21 Sep 2003
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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 5:46 pm    Post subject:  

Its 4 valves per cylinder
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88delta88



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Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 6:25 pm    Post subject:  

DUhhhh.... :-) how stupid of me...

OOOOOOKKK then!
:-) Makes sense now!
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oldsmobile420



Joined: 21 Dec 2003
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Location: pa

Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 12:26 am    Post subject:  

88delta88 wrote: DUhhhh.... :-) how stupid of me...

OOOOOOKKK then!
:-) Makes sense now!


guess he forgot his was the village idiot (hehe)im just playin wit ya man
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88delta88



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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:20 am    Post subject:  

sweet!!! Now I've got at least an excuse around here when I do something stupid!!! I forgot about my title around here. :-)
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85cieraholiday



Joined: 04 Jan 2004
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Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2004 9:28 am    Post subject:  

[quote="88delta88"]Cool! Good to know, although I dont think the last statement can be true... 4cyl 4valve 2cam... I think there would be more than 4 valves in there... even if it were 4 valves per cam, most 4cyl engines are at least 12 or 16 valve...

quote]

Well my 2.5 Tech 4 has 8 valves
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