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PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 12:45 pm 
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As I've posted elsewhere, spouse and I have some plans to spiff-up the finish on my 89 Cutlass Ciera. Couple of questions:

1. The guy I bought the car from said his dad (who literally bought it off the truck at a new car show) was told the finish would never need waxing. Of course, that's obviously not the case now, but has anybody else around here heard of that? And if so, is there some kind of special wax I need to use for it or would something like Nu Vinyl do the trick?

2. I'm missing the Oldsmobile badge that is supposed to go over the left headlight. Anybody know where I can get one?

Thanks.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 2:51 pm 
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I'm sure and wax will do
NuFinish car wax has a lot of cleaners in it that could be good if the paint hasn't been touched im a while.
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Newcutlassfan wrote:
........ would something like Nu Vinyl do the trick? ........

Not for paint. As the name applies, it's sold as a vinyl preservative. I've used it, and would not recommend it to anyone.

Jkw wrote:
........ NuFinish car wax ........

From NuFinish.com
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Only product in its category that contains no wax.
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Not a wax, therefore, no paint protection.

Jkw wrote:
........ has a lot of cleaners in it ........

Paint cleaners = rubbing compounds = abrasives = paint removal.

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........ could be good if the paint hasn't been touched in a while ........

Only if it's oxidized, like those in the TV ads.

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I wouldnt touch my car with any of that stuff. My clean/protect method is as follows.

Wash car throughly. dry.

I use meguires "quik clay" but any clar bar kit will work. use according to directions.

I follow this up with a good cleaner wax, mine is made by meguires.

I then follow that up with Meguires gold class pure carnuba wax, although any premuim wax will work. Alot of people use good ol turtle wax, and there is nothing wrong with that. I think, and it could be placebo, that a premium wax gives a better shine. Sort of a get what you pay for deal. I know Mothers makes a good wax, and the new Turtle wax stuff is good too. Zymol is probably the best out there, but too expensive for my blood. Also, I have a random orbital buffer that works great, otherwise its alot of elbow grease.

The second step is probably redundant, but I feel that it enures I am protecting a clean surface, and not waxing impurities into my paint.

Car Craft had a good article a couple months ago about bringing back faded finishes. Its still on their tech site IIRC.

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andrewk wrote:
........ Wash car throughly. Dry ........

Good start. If the wax is still good, you should be able to use clear water.

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........ I use Meguiar's "quik clay" but any clay bar kit will work ........

Not needed if the previous wax was done properly, the present session is not overdue, and your initial wash was complete.

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........ I follow this up with a good cleaner wax ........

Cleaner/wax = Oxymoron?

Didn't you "clean" it during step one? Don't you "wax" it in step four?

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........ I then follow that up with Meguiars gold class pure carnuba wax ........

Wax is good. Normally it should be the second (and final) step.

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........ A lot of people use good ol turtle wax, and there is nothing wrong with that ........

Turtle Wax worked last time I used it. Bue Coral did the same.

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........ a premium wax gives a better shine .......

Could that be the placebo effect?

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........ Sort of a get what you pay for deal ........

Or, sort of, pay for the name and the hype that goes with it?

andrewk wrote:
........ The second step is probably redundant, but I feel that it ensures I am protecting a clean surface, and not waxing impurities into my paint ........

No confidence in your first step?

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........ Car Craft had a good article ........

Now that, is, an oxymoron.

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Im not sure if the "3 step process" I use is actually working better or not. In fact, I would believe that you are correct. However, comparing wax to wax, I think that the gold class wax I use gives a 'deeper' shine than the turtle wax does. Not sure if it makes a difference from clearcoat to conventional paint, but I did notice it looked 'deeper' than the cheaper stuff I had been using.

Im sure placebo had some sort of input here too, but I also believe that it actually was better.

I should have spelled it "Camaro Craft".

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andrewk wrote:
........ comparing wax to wax, I think that the gold class wax I use gives a 'deeper' shine than the turtle wax does ........

The last time I used Turtle Wax, Meguiar's gold class did not exist.

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........ but I also believe that it actually was better ........

I might just do a comparison, after I paint my '65.

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........ I should have spelled it "Camaro Craft".

Checked out Camaro Craft, and didn't see anything about wax, or Camaros. I did look here, and saw this:

Car Craft wrote:
........ 131/44- to 171/48-inch stepped headers that feed into a 311/42-inch merge collector ........

Do those numbers seem a little large?

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2. I'm missing the Oldsmobile badge that is supposed to go over the left headlight. Anybody know where I can get one?

Thanks.


Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Olds ... 1893QQrdZ1



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Here's a cheaper one.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1988-OLD ... 4757QQrdZ1


And another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsmobi ... 9971QQrdZ1

And another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsmobi ... 9996QQrdZ1

And another:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Oldsmobi ... 0008QQrdZ1



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Hmm!..ya think he got the point?..anyways if someone was trying to obtain some badges/decals for their vehicle they would go to their local automotive salvage yard...Im sure they would have a bin of them!


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Hmm!..ya think he got the point?..anyways if someone was trying to obtain some badges/decals for their vehicle they would go to their local automotive salvage yard...Im sure they would have a bin of them!


Unless a local yard doesnt exist, or the person would rather not go to the salvage yard.

Or maybe they wanted NOS ones, which are some of those links. They are also different. 2 are chrome and black one is gold and black, and one is used.



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So even though i offered a suggestion to his problem, you need to analyze everything one would say? ..Which is totally unrelated to the subject, but it is however annoying!!


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Newcutlassfan wrote:

2. I'm missing the Oldsmobile badge that is supposed to go over the left headlight. Anybody know where I can get one?

Thanks.


Here is one of the !!QUESTIONS ASKED!!..I gave my answer that I thought was helpful! Sorry that I never broke it down into little quotes and asked a bunch questions about them. Some ppl like giving an opinion on something! without getting hassled about it. I would like to speak for others but i cant. Why? Because I don't know how they feel on the subject


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ahondadriversnightmare wrote:
So even though i offered a suggestion to his problem, you need to analyze everything one would say? ........

In this context, the use of the word "analyzing" seems to indicate a bit of paranoia on the part of the author.

It is called a discussion. It is what is normally done on this discussion board.

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........ Which is totally unrelated to the subject ........

How is his post off the subject?

More importantly, how is your paranoid sniveling related to the subject.

ahondadriversnightmare wrote:
........ Here is one of the questions asked! ........

And, along with an unnecessary comment, you gave a partial answer. What is your point?



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Yikes- No offense intended.

My response was to the comment:

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Hmm!..ya think he got the point?


Meaning that in some instances, ebay is the best way. Espically for dicussion purposes, becuase one can link to it, for easy reference.

A salvage yard is a great idea if he has access to it. That was my point, nothing more, nothing less.

Sorry if you were confused-

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