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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:27 am |
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DrRansom442 wrote: Its done, its over, you were wrong, that's all that needs to be said ........ Perfect example of an oxymoron. He says I’m wrong, he can’t explain why, and he wants me to quit. DrRansom442 wrote: ........ Now please, we can drop it ... you've proved yourself enough ……..
We can drop it after he gives us some actual explanations for his bogus statements, instead of posting unrelated images. Yes, I’m thinking of one in particular, and it’s not what you’re thinking.
Did anyone else notice? No one asked for proof of anything, yet he feels the need to show proof of his statements? Is it because he knows he can't explain them?
This time he posted images as proof of his own statement, and they made my original point for me. The Fool posted them without even realizing it.
We can see why he puts his tail between his legs and runs away when he’s asked to clarify his own statement.
_________________ Harry S. Truman wrote: When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship.
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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:22 pm |
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One more time, in order to make sure the horse is actually dead.
Actually, because it's a genuine masterpiece.
For clarity, I'm showing my posts in their entirety.
On Fri Apr 07, 2006 @ 2:41 am, 88 Coupe wrote: Hi andrewk, All, Quote: ........ Interesting... So it had 2 intake runners to each intake port? How did it work? ........ Similar to the induction setup on those Corvettes that used a manifold with two runners to each intake port. One was used for normal driving, both for max power. Quote: ........ What other engines/sizes was it offered on? ........ Perhaps, I'll answer this one after DrRansom442 posts the link I requested. It would fit in here perfectly. Quote: ........ Sounds like an interesting piece of equipment... Less complicated than the induction setup on those Corvettes that used a manifold with two runners to each intake port. One was used for normal driving, both for max power. Less complicated than the Crossfire, also. On Fri Apr 07, 2006 @ 10:59 pm, 88 Coupe wrote: Hi andrewk, All, Quote: So it is similar in the fact that the offy version does it mechanically, and the LT-5 with the ECM? ........ The more I edit this, the more similar they get. They both do it mechanically. The computer closes one intake valve which limits the volume of air to the combustion chamber, while keeping the velocity up. The carb closes one runner which limits the volume of A/F mixture to the combustion chamber, while keeping the velocity up. Quote: ........ That would make the fact that they both have 16 intake runners coincendental right? ........ Not a coincidence. Using 16 runners for velocity control is the reason they are functionally the same. EDIT: It's possible that one uses ⅜" bolts and the other uses 10mm, but that is DrRansom442s area of expertise, not mine. Quote: ........ Just making sure I am understanding this correctly.
I'm glad you're interested. Many times I gain a better understanding of a subject by explaining it to someone else. I this case I've learned a lot. In addition to furthering our knowledge, your questions demonstrate to TOCs more astute readers, the difference between a discussion and an argument. On Sat Apr 08, 2006 @ 9:36 pm, DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: Similar to the induction setup on those Corvettes that used a manifold with two runners to each intake port. One was used for normal driving, both for max power.
Less complicated than the induction setup on those Corvettes that used a manifold with two runners to each intake port. One was used for normal driving, both for max power. The computer closes one intake valve which limits the volume of air to the combustion chamber, while keeping the velocity up. This is not how the LT5 operates, where you concocked this out of the "valet mode" is mesmerizing. When the "full power mode" is switched off the ECM merely limits the fuel and timing in "valet mode". This is NOT like the V8-6-4 were valves were physically (magnetically if memory serves) held shut .
Now we see why DrRansom442 doesn't like to post quotes. He can't even get that right.
But wait.
Is it possible to inadvertently combine parts of two different posts in the same quote?
And, in a such a way. that it looks like it wasn't edited?
And to make it look like he was addressing more comments than he actually was?
Comments that are impossible to dispute?
Now, I’m done with this thread.
Regards, Norm
_________________ Harry S. Truman wrote: When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship.
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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2006 9:53 pm |
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Hi 85cieraholiday, All,
Quote: ........ After reading that last post I must say Norm Im sorry for doubting ........ I knew why you thought that, it's all that matters. I'm sorry I couldn't explain it at the time. Quote: ........ I must say your very good at reading past what is written ........ Actually, I read only what is there. Difference is, I've been reading every word he says. To quote one of my grammar school teachers. "The easiest way to identify a pathological/habitual liar, is to note his/her fixation on proving their own statements, and their assumption that everyone else lies just like they do. Quote: ........ I never thought of why he felt the need to prove everything until you pointed it out ........ No doubt, you'll be able to recognize the next one on your own. Quote: ........ Maybe you could apply for the title of TOC Olds God?
I'll be happy, if I can pass on some of my knowledge and experience, to your generation and learn from it at the same time.
Regards, Norm
_________________ Harry S. Truman wrote: When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship.
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DrRansom442
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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:05 am |
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88 Coupe wrote: Hi 85cieraholiday, All, Quote: ........ After reading that last post I must say Norm Im sorry for doubting ........ I knew why you thought that, it's all that matters. I'm sorry I couldn't explain it at the time. Quote: ........ I must say your very good at reading past what is written ........ Actually, I read only what is there. Difference is, I've been reading every word he says. To quote one of my grammar school teachers. "The easiest way to identify a pathological/habitual liar, is to note his/her fixation on proving their own statements, and their assumption that everyone else lies just like they do. Quote: ........ I never thought of why he felt the need to prove everything until you pointed it out ........ No doubt, you'll be able to recognize the next one on your own. Quote: ........ Maybe you could apply for the title of TOC Olds God? I'll be happy, if I can pass on some of my knowledge and experience, to your generation and learn from it at the same time. Regards, Norm
Like I said from the get go, I have nothing to prove to you, as far as me backing up whatI say, sure....you seem to request it anyways, so why not save the time. I find it hilarious you you have to start new threads constantly and consult a "panel" of people who know more then you and yet you still can not admit that I maybe right (thus you are wrong) on quite a few points. sad really. Just let it go already. No new posts. No saying "he'll be along..." no waiting 5 days then posting because I ignore you. Just be a man ... walk away
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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 5:13 am |
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DrRansom442 wrote: ........ I have nothing to prove to you, as far as me backing up whatI say, sure....you seem to request it anyways ........ I repeat, no one has asked you to prove anything. DrRansom442 wrote: ........ you still can not admit that I maybe right ......... First, you'll have to get something right. DrRansom442 wrote: ........ Just let it go already ........ walk away ........
No chance.
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DrRansom442
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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:07 am |
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88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ I have nothing to prove to you, as far as me backing up whatI say, sure....you seem to request it anyways ........ I repeat, no one has asked you to prove anything. DrRansom442 wrote: ........ you still can not admit that I maybe right ......... First, you'll have to get something right. DrRansom442 wrote: ........ Just let it go already ........ walk away ........ No chance.
"What we have here is a failure to communicate"
to me and Webster's
"Clarification" means
explaination - like you can't understand what I am conveying
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exemplification - perhaps I am giving you the benefit of doubt and assuming English is your primary language and providing the examples you are asking for. So, you you have either been asking me to prove my statements, over and over and over and over and over, or there is a comprehension issue. You tell me, then perhaps you can understand why I find you and your inane "clarification" so sophomoric.
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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 9:56 pm |
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DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "What we have here is a failure to communicate" ........ Yes, we do. As long as you make baseless accusations, it will continue. You have not yet shown the common courtesy to "post the quote". Is it because you cannot find any such requests? Is it because they do not exist? Is it because of your inability to paste verbatim quotes, as was shown in my above post? DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "Clarification" means explaination ........
OK.
Since a request for either is the accepted norm during a discussion, and a demand for "proof" is not only rude, but argumentative, how does that "clarify" and/or "explain" why you think anyone has asked you for proof of anything?
The absurdity of the rest of your post speaks for itself.
Everyone: The first sentence is one of two in this post, that are "admissions" that his are correct statements. I only bring them up, because he has not recognized similar statements in the past.
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DrRansom442
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 Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:46 pm |
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88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "What we have here is a failure to communicate" ........ Yes, we do. As long as you make baseless accusations, it will continue. wait I have no basis for my statements or I feel a need to "clarify" my statements without someone asking for proof which is it? Or maybe you mean my accusing you of lacking the proper creditials to dispute me ... sure i don't know you but I think you have done a great job proving my own assumptions. 88 Coupe wrote: You have not yet shown the common courtesy to "post the quote".
Is it because you cannot find any such requests?
Is it because they do not exist?
Is it because of your inability to paste verbatim quotes, as was shown in my above post? anyone who has read the threads doesn't have to read the same tired "please clarify" over and over and over, you type it enough, I don't have to quote it. 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "Clarification" means explaination ........ OK. Since a request for either is the accepted norm during a discussion, and a demand for "proof" is not only rude, but argumentative, how does that "clarify" and/or "explain" why you think anyone has asked you for proof of anything? The absurdity of the rest of your post speaks for itself. An obvious ruse by omission, why not post the entire thought???? This is exactly what I mean when I call you sophomoric. You hear what you want to hear, not the complete thought. You try and play word games, by posting just bits and pieces. If this were a news publication, you'd probably be sued by now for your gross misquotes. I can count how many times you ask me to "clarify" and by "clarify" we ALL know you mean provide "proof" so by your own admission you are "not only rude but argumentative" add to this that you have to consult others, to accredit or discredit my statements or facts and you attempt to pass off your heresy as fact. I don't know should I feel honored that you try so hard, yet my statements seem to withstand the microscope? You obviously do not know the subject, that's fine. Stop acting like you do. Stop being "not only rude but argumentative". You further claim my knowledge is solely Internet based, yet all your info is coming not from YOUR experiences but from heresy -- they call that hypocrisy. Now I will concede that the people you are asking appear (yes I do not know them but unlike you I have yet to see any reasons to doubt their experiences or sincerity -- nor have any of them done as you'd hope and completely contradict me). You have spent a lot of time in effort on trying to debunk me -- I admit when I am wrong, as of yet, I haven't seen you do so, and at your request I point out some very specific examples. So again, why not just drop it. You are starting to irritate me (which I suspect is your real motivation) 88 Coupe wrote: Everyone: The first sentence is one of two in this post, that are "admissions" that his are correct statements. I only bring them up, because he has not recognized similar statements in the past.
I am well aware that you make me repeat myself over and over
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87 Cutlass Supreme 307/200-4r (stolen Oct 04)
81 Cutlass Calais 260/350 (purchased Nov 04)
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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:32 am |
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DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "What we have here is a failure to communicate" ........ Yes, we do. As long as you make baseless accusations, it will continue. ........ wait I have no basis for my statements or I feel a need to "clarify" my statements without someone asking for proof which is it? ........ Read it again, and respond to the statement I made, not the one you think I made. Is our communication failure rooted in the fact that you have a problem reading and comprehending simple text? That would go far in explaining why you cannot answer simple questions regarding your own statements. We are witnessing an outstanding example of the reason one should "post the quote" and the reason DrRansom442 is so reluctant to do so. DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "Clarification" means explaination ........ OK. Since a request for either is the accepted norm during a discussion, and a demand for "proof" is not only rude, but argumentative, how does that "clarify" and/or "explain" why you think anyone has asked you for proof of anything? The absurdity of the rest of your post speaks for itself. An obvious ruse by omission, why not post the entire thought? ........ DrRansom442 wrote: to me and Webster's "Clarification" means explaination - like you can't understand what I am conveying ........ 88 Coupe wrote: ........ Since a request for either is the accepted norm during a discussion, and a demand for "proof" is not only rude, but argumentative, how does that "clarify" and/or "explain" why you think anyone has asked you for proof of anything? ........ OK, done. Does it make it any easier for you to respond to the question? DrRansom442 wrote: ........ I admit when I am wrong ........ The following was one of two "admissions" I'm aware of. In it there are several more mistakes you did not address the first and second times I posted it. 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ Andrew pointed out on another thread i was wrong, and I admitted it ........ That was big of you. Now, can you explain this one or do you want to admit your mistakes. I see several. DrRansom442 wrote: ........ The Crossfire Manifold design was the major issue. Gas would "puddle" at the bottom during normal driving. When coming to a stop, this gas splashes over the restrictions (cast edges in the bottom) and causing a flooding, stumbling or dying situation. Engine backfires when taking from a light or engine is sluggish during accelerating, were also common place. Most Vette enthuisists avoid crossfires like the black plague. The TPI was lightyears ahead in design. I believe electrical problems were also prevelent and lets face it the system was overly complex especially for the "state of the art" ECMs of the early 80s. They were slow and crude and the Crossfire controlled not one but two TBIs, when one would act up it would mess with one entire bank of cylinders Unlike you, I can "post the quote" ......... DrRansom442 wrote: ........ So again, why not just drop it ........ He continues to insult me and he wants me to drop it? DrRansom442 wrote: ........ You are starting to irritate me (which I suspect is your real motivation) The first sign he is going to put his tail between his legs. DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: Everyone: The first sentence is one of two in this post, that are "admissions" that his are correct statements. I only bring them up, because he has not recognized similar statements in the past. I am well aware that you make me repeat myself over and over
Fool will continue to say I do not acknowledge it when he does get one right.
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DrRansom442
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 Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 1:17 pm |
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88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "What we have here is a failure to communicate" ........ Yes, we do. As long as you make baseless accusations, it will continue. ........ wait I have no basis for my statements or I feel a need to "clarify" my statements without someone asking for proof which is it? ........ Read it again, and respond to the statement I made, not the one you think I made. you have asked for exemplification and I've accommodated that request (sometimes proactively) 88 Coupe wrote: Is our communication failure rooted in the fact that you have a problem reading and comprehending simple text? That would go far in explaining why you cannot answer simple questions regarding your own statements. All through out school I tested collegic in reading and comprehension. I was even offerred to take my SATs as far back as the 5th grade. Since I have yet to ask you to retype your simplistic commentary, I think I comprehend what you are saying better then you obviously do 88 Coupe wrote: We are witnessing an outstanding example of the reason one should "post the quote" and the reason DrRansom442 is so reluctant to do so. I really have no desire to re-read your multiple overly long postings, to point out the extact passages and quote them back to you, such "clarification" is "not only rude, but argumentative" 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "Clarification" means explaination ........ OK. Since a request for either is the accepted norm during a discussion, and a demand for "proof" is not only rude, but argumentative, how does that "clarify" and/or "explain" why you think anyone has asked you for proof of anything? The absurdity of the rest of your post speaks for itself. An obvious ruse by omission, why not post the entire thought? ........ DrRansom442 wrote: to me and Webster's "Clarification" means explaination - like you can't understand what I am conveying ........ 88 Coupe wrote: ........ Since a request for either is the accepted norm during a discussion, and a demand for "proof" is not only rude, but argumentative, how does that "clarify" and/or "explain" why you think anyone has asked you for proof of anything? ........ OK, done. Does it make it any easier for you to respond to the question? again you still failed to type the whole passage, another ruse ""Clarification" means explaination - like you can't understand what I am conveying or exemplification " we all know you want examples or proof so by your own words you are being "not only rude, but argumentative" I really lack the desire to justify myself to you, the next 5 days "I spend researching the internet" to respond to you .... go ahead and believe that, but know that it really is just ignoring you. 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ I admit when I am wrong ........ The following was one of two "admissions" I'm aware of. In it there are several more mistakes you did not address the first and second times I posted it. 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ Andrew pointed out on another thread i was wrong, and I admitted it ........ That was big of you. Now, can you explain this one or do you want to admit your mistakes. I see several. DrRansom442 wrote: ........ The Crossfire Manifold design was the major issue. Gas would "puddle" at the bottom during normal driving. When coming to a stop, this gas splashes over the restrictions (cast edges in the bottom) and causing a flooding, stumbling or dying situation. Engine backfires when taking from a light or engine is sluggish during accelerating, were also common place. Most Vette enthuisists avoid crossfires like the black plague. The TPI was lightyears ahead in design. I believe electrical problems were also prevelent and lets face it the system was overly complex especially for the "state of the art" ECMs of the early 80s. They were slow and crude and the Crossfire controlled not one but two TBIs, when one would act up it would mess with one entire bank of cylinders Unlike you, I can "post the quote" ......... but can you admit YOUR mistakes, so far you haven't. Pointing out what you think I said wrong is not admitting fault on your end 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ] ........ So again, why not just drop it ........ He continues to insult me and he wants me to drop it? since we will continue being childish how about these childhood lessons "sticks and stones my break my bones, but words can never hurt me". or "sometimes it takes a bigger man to walk away from a fight" 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ] ........ You are starting to irritate me (which I suspect is your real motivation) The first sign he is going to put his tail between his legs. no i've indicated the willingness to drop this several times and go on with our lives several times, but it is you that must fuel this. Personally I have better things to do. There is another adage I must be forgetting. "never argue with a fool, others may not know the difference" if I am a fool, it is for letting this go on as far as it has. you, however, are apperantly a fool from birth 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: Everyone: The first sentence is one of two in this post, that are "admissions" that his are correct statements. I only bring them up, because he has not recognized similar statements in the past. I am well aware that you make me repeat myself over and over Fool will continue to say I do not acknowledge it when he does get one right. [/quote]
I don't need a pat on the back for a job well done, a simple "I was wrong" would suffice. especially since you are the one that is challenging my statements. If they hold up (and they do), then just admit you were wrong. I've point out a couple blantent examples of where you were wrong and yet you still deny it
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87 Cutlass Supreme 307/200-4r (stolen Oct 04)
81 Cutlass Calais 260/350 (purchased Nov 04)
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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Sat Apr 22, 2006 7:31 pm |
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88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: 88 Coupe wrote: DrRansom442 wrote: ........ "What we have here is a failure to communicate" ........ Yes, we do. As long as you make baseless accusations, it will continue. ........ wait I have no basis for my statements or I feel a need to "clarify" my statements without someone asking for proof which is it? ........ Read it again, and respond to the statement I made, not the one you think I made. While you are rereading it, note the word "accusations" that I wrote, DrRansom442 wrote: ........ wait I have no basis for my statements or I feel a need to "clarify" my statements ........
and the word "statements" that you responded to.
Considering your impressive language credentials, I would think you could read, comprehend, and respond, with an accurate answer to a simple post.
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88 Coupe
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