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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 12:18 am 
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OK. Nothing has changed.

I can live with that.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:10 pm 
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.... I am not the only moderator. I could have taken action a long time ago, but I was involved in the discussion, so that would reflect poorly on me....

And none of the other mods have said anything... The discussion still appears healthy from a third party's point of view.

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.... If you would like to discuss my actions as a moderator, start a new thread.

In addition to; the new thread would have to address all moderators, not just andrewk. We're all reading...



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 2:38 pm 
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my beliefs are this simple if you offend a man you apologize and move on, if the man dosent take your apology then respect goes out the window, I will say this much...again
The first statment i made was in retaliation to norms post style, I felt he was being a ass and respponded accordingly i then realized my mistake and apologized for my use of curse words. I can understand if Norm want to talk trash every chance he gets but on the same token i will not bow down forever and wait for him to feel better about me "attacking" him. If norm can atleast get my name right things would never have gone this far. I realize andrew isnt the only moderator but i felt the need to adress him because he participated in the drama fest- which i feel a moderator shouldnt get involved in, thats what moderators do they keep the peace IMO, but thats my opinion. I realize my action in this forum havent been the best and i will work on them. I just simply ask for my name to used properly, and if it isnt i cant give the same respect and the cycle just goes on and on. as for my peeves wit norm ill just PM them till he gets sick of having to type in 91buickman in all of his messages. thats my .02



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 5:45 pm 
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Hello everyone,

My position has not, and will not change.

Here it is, again:

88 Coupe wrote:
    1. He is in no position to make demands, and I'm not prepared to negotiate anything.
    2. He has been the aggressor since his arrival.
    3. All content that has been directed at him, refers to information that originated in his own posts.
    4. He has not been treated any differently than anyone else.
    5. If wants respect, he will have to earn it by showing a history of posting in an adult manner.
    6. If he has any questions, he can contact me via PM.

I might (no guarantee implied) reword #2, if 91buickman chooses to conform to the spirit of #5.

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........ my beliefs are this simple ........ another childish rant ........ the cycle just goes on and on ........

Nothing has changed. 91buickman is still blaming others for the problems he created for himself.

91buickman, this is for you: Read #5 and #6 again.

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........ ill just PM them till he gets sick of having to type in 91buickman in all of his messages ........

At the risk of repeating myself, I can live with that.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 11, 2007 7:35 pm 
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my beliefs are this simple if you offend a man you apologize and move on, if the man dosent take your apology then respect goes out the window...


But you never apologized.

Here it is, followed by my reply on page 6 of this thread:

91parkave wrote:
i also apologize to the board for my cursing didnt see the edit button till it didnt mater anymore

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To the person that reads what is there, and not what isn’t, this is an apology for your language, not the content of your first post.


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I will say this much...again
The first statment i made was in retaliation to norms post style, I felt he was being a ass...


And you had no basis for that view. The man asked a few questions, and offered his educated opinion-nothing more, nothing less.

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i then realized my mistake and apologized for my use of curse words.


But that isn't an apology for calling him names, just an apology for swearing.

91parkave wrote:
I can understand if Norm want to talk trash every chance he gets but on the same token i will not bow down forever and wait for him to feel better about me "attacking" him.


All you have to do is stop poking the bear.

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If norm can atleast get my name right things would never have gone this far.


They probably wouldn't have went this far if you would have admitted you were wrong in the first place.

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I realize andrew isnt the only moderator but i felt the need to adress him because he participated in the drama fest- which i feel a moderator shouldnt get involved in, thats what moderators do they keep the peace IMO, but thats my opinion.


And your opinion on that matter belongs in the thread in which it is being discussed. You can find it here:

http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/vie ... php?t=2884

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I realize my action in this forum havent been the best and i will work on them.


Thats good to hear.

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I just simply ask for my name to used properly, and if it isnt i cant give the same respect and the cycle just goes on and on.


How can you ask for respect when you were the first to show disrespect?

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as for my peeves wit norm ill just PM them till he gets sick of having to type in 91buickman in all of his messages.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:23 am 
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like i said check me out on 3800pro.com


OK- Looks like you behave there, because the entire site is under close supervision, with a no tolerance policy for asshattery.

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This is a liberal forum, where common sense is not spelled. For all intents and purposes, consider yourself under these rules when posting here. One could infer from TOC's rules that all of the above applies.

These rules essentially spell out the basic rules of net etiquette, tailored for a specific site.

Following these rules will help, "keep the peace."

This reply is probably ill-timed, but I just now had the chance to check out that site-



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 5:29 am 
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I think you missed the point andrew, 3800pro isnt closley supervised at all its liberal just like this forum, only diffrence is people know how to talk to each other withou sounding like an ass, its all about perception. just my .02



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91parkave wrote:
I think you missed the point


No.

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only diffrence is people know how to talk to each other withou sounding like an ass


As does this forum.

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its all about perception.


Yes it is.



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:41 am 
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91buickman wrote:
........ 3800pro isnt closley supervised at all its liberal just like this forum ........

Not according to the following quote.

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........ No flaming or insulting of other members. You will get one warning via a private message. Repeat offenses will result in being banned. (We are quite serious about this folks) ........

We can see why those members know how to talk to each other. We treat each other like adults, because we are (except for an occasional Troll) adults.

Here is how it works there: http://www.3800pro.com/forum/showthread ... 29&t=16273

Third post. 91buickman posted a BS reply to Rogue (who actually knows what he is talking about) and got his hand slapped. He took it like a man. I wonder why he didn't argue like a 5 year old.


Speaking of Rogue:

From: http://www.bonnevilleclub.com/forum/vie ... 476#899476

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........ but people around here are head over heels about INTENSE racing products and they make good stuff but their not the people who make good products if you catch my drift ........

I don't catch the drift at all and in fact I take a pretty big offense to this statement.

There is usually a reason that a company has a big following or is recommended to other people. I'm not sure making good stuff but not good product is a valid (or even comprehensible) reason to dispute that ........

Rogue has been an active member of BC at least as long as I've been visiting there. Can anyone tell me what position he holds at Intense Racing in addition to being administrator at 3800pro?

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:07 am 
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If you keep reading you will notice where i cleared that up, I left out a word which totally changed the meaning of what i typed.

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........ but people around here are head over heels about INTENSE racing products and they make good stuff but their not the ONLY people who make good products if you catch my drift ........

Rouge then saw what i was talking about and no harm no foul. So Like i said norm if youre going to post my quotes POST THE WHOLE QUOTE!

Now for the 3800pro, I pm'ed rouge ands asked him why he thought what he did, there was a miscommunicatiioin because i was talking about the 91-97 body styles in which there is plenty of room for intercoolers etc...
as for the 98+'s there a ddiffrent body style and have limited room for them, Problem solved.

Anything else, you might be unclear about?



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91buickman wrote:
........ I left out a word which totally changed the meaning of what i typed ........

You added it after you got caught posting BS as if you actually knew what you were talking about.

91buickman wrote:
........ if you catch my drift ........

And the part you could not "clean up"? Not much you could have done with the revealing part.

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........ Rouge then saw what i was talking about and no harm no foul ........

Everyone (there and here) knows what you meant. You posted it because you did not know there was a resident Intense rep at BC.

His only option was to accept your "after the fact" damage control, and react as he did.

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........ I pm'ed rouge ands asked him why he thought what he did ........

In this case, we have no choice but to post as if you were being truthful. Just like Rogue did in the BC thread.

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........ there was a miscommunicatiioin because i was talking about ........

Something other than what was being discussed. You seem to do a lot of that.

91buickman wrote:
........ Anything else, you might be unclear about?

Me? Unclear? You are no less transparent than any other common BS artist.

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Once again, If you want to talk B.S then have something other than you r worthless opinion to back it up with. Just like i said earlier you love to take everything out of context, I explained earlier what happened, and thats what happened, end of story i f you dont believe it keep it to youreself, no one cares, You cant prove me wrong, and you have nothing to gain by this. Did i hurt your feelings before? Are you a child molestor? ive never heard of a grown man who brings up chilidish behavior more than you, you are the one who needs to grow up and stop putting half ass quotes up so you can take them out of context, you almost worse than the media.



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........ If you want to talk B.S ........ More of the same ........worse than the media.

On a scale of 1 to 10, this rant is a minus 2.

BTW: A common child molester ranks a couple of steps above a compulsive liar.

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BTW: A common child molester ranks a couple of steps above a compulsive liar.


I forgot that you always spoke from actual experience



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91parkave wrote:
[b]Once again... blahblahbitchbitchcrycrywhinewhinesobsobblahblah


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I realize my action in this forum havent been the best and i will work on them.



:boohoo:

I'd say they still need work.



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