OK. I have some plans for my Cutlass Ciera and I would like some assistance on what you think I could do here.

First lets start like this...The attenna broke off about 3 months ago. SHortly after that i looked and thought "this car would look sweet with out that attena there. So I plan on "shaving" the attenna off. What would be the best way you think to fill the hole in? I have a couple idea's but I want to see what you all think.

Second...

I want to put the attenna on or in the rear of the car. If I coule come up with some way to not even have it outside the body that would ROCK! But from what I know about radio aignals thats not gonna work. I am thinking about puttin a small wing or spoiler on the car maybe if I do that have a way to integrate it into that?

What do you all think?

I am going to post my picture on the album today but I have them already posted on www.theburningcandle.net

Thanks in advance

You can fill a larger hole by back supporting it with a piece of metal stock. I did this with a hole in my passenger side door where a mirror used to be when I changed to sport type mirrors. I don't weld so I used good epoxy. Make sure the underside metal is clean and bright, cut out a piece of sheet metal larger than the hole, and epoxy it up to the underside of the hole. Use some good tape to hold it in place. After the epoxy sets, fill in the hole from the top with good body filler, sand smooth and primer. This worked for me and so far has lasted three years.

I work as an RF radio repair technician for a Motorola repair facility. You are right, you will have trouble with reception if you hide an antenna inside a C pillar or under a trunk lid. The antenna needs to be in free air above the ground plane (rest of the car). Perhaps using a fiberglass wing would help but the length of a standard fm antenns is close to 30 inches and a vertical orientation is desirable. If you hide it in the wing in a horizontal orientation I am not sure how well that would work. You need a good ground plane for it to work well also. I would say try it but your best bet would be one of two things. An in glass antenna in the windshield or a power antenna someplace. Maybe you could use one of those little antennas they have on the VWs coming out of the roof of the car. Good luck.

My mom's pontiac transsport has the antenna in the roof, somehow they used a flat sheet antenna, and it works like no antenna I've ever used. We can pick up radio stations in that van that you can't normally get unless you travel for an hour or so closer to the next city...

Anyways, I'd love to know how they do that.

My dad's Civic has the antenna "bonded" to the rear window much like the defroster and it sucks. Even local stations come in crappy!

Hey, atleast you guys have an antenna, mine was broke off about 3 years ago and i've had a replacement for it for about 2 years, im just to lazy to remove the fender to install it
I get some stations, the good ones atleast, kinda

ahh, just jam a coat hanger in there!

my 73 has the antenna inside the windshield.... do any modern cars have that? or is it just something from back in the day

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my 73 has the antenna inside the windshield.... do any modern cars have that? or is it just something from back in the day[/quote]

Like I said, my dad's Civic (2000 LX sedan)

Thankyou for the replies so far. I looked at some antenna's today and online last night. I may end up just puting one of those euro style rubber looking things. My mom said to put a retactable in...i dont really like them...to many breakage problems. I have time so I will still be looking around.

Thanks for the tip on the hole also.

If any one else has some more ideas please pass them along

no, it's actually INSIDE the glass, not just bonded to it

true, the window antennas aren't as good.