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strokercutlass
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Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2003 11:09 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:17 am Posts: 378 Images: 13 Location: Wis
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well speedy...as a shop manager..i can tell you that we normally attempt to use same brand and type of plugs with each vehicle...Autolite with Ford, Champion with Mopar, AC with GM..and we also try to use the same type...platinum only if its called for as original equipment.....in certain engines, cars not originally equipped with platinums that are running them tend to sometimes have ignition coil and module failures...due to the fact that it takes more energy to fire a platinum plug..due to different construction and resistance thru the plug....some people have no problems with them, but as a business person, i always stress to a customer to use what the factory intended....we use Mobil oil products, which have proven themselves to be an excellent product, both in the standard as well as synthetic line.....we install hastings filters, but filters by Wix and Baldwin are also good...i tend to stay away from Fram products...due to the fact that they make two different quality of products, and if youre shopping at your local Wal Mart..youre buying the cheaper version, which means less protection....also, cheaper does not make better when it comes to plug wires, or any other parts..granted, you MAY spend more at an auto parts store..BUT you WILL find better quality there than at a Wal Mart, Sams Club, or other type of store....also, dont let marketing gimmicks and sales people push you into something you dont REALLY need....as i said...youre car didnt come with the platinums, i dont believe....and doesnt exactly NEED em...they do have their good points, more longevity, etc..but the downside is that once people install em, they tend to forget about em for too long, and they end up seizing in the heads, causing MAJOR issues on the newer cars....just my .02 cents for ya
_________________ Shawn's Auto Repair and Performance, SW Wis.
www.shawnsautorepair.procarcarezone.com
69 Olds Cutlass S
70 Olds Vista Cruiser Wagon
72 Olds Cutlass S, 12:1 470 stroker, JM40 solid lifter cam, TH400, 3500 10" PTC stall, 4.11 posi
74 442 455/TH350
79 Cutlass 455/TH375 sleeper
'97 GMC Sierra Ext Cab 9" lift w/ 37's
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88delta88
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 5:29 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 5:06 pm Posts: 2415 Images: 40 Location: Canada
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I've replaced spark plugs in all of my cars, I've also only owned GM products, except for the "devil-child". I always bought those cheap AC-Delco plugs for it, and they NEVER gave me a problem, or prompted me to think twice about more expensive plugs.
EXCEPT in the devil-child, which is what I called my Ford Probe Turbo (i replaced everything in that car in a 1 1/2 year period, and I mean EVERYTHING). I bought AC Delco plugs for it, they were listed for that make and model, and they were cheap. But after that, the car ran like shit. I replaced wires, cap, rotor.... EVERYTHING, till I replaced the plugs with Bosch platinum, and it ran beutiful after that.... STRANGE!!!
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strokercutlass
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Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2003 7:01 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:17 am Posts: 378 Images: 13 Location: Wis
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well 73,
i havent had anyone in thats specifically asked for it..or put it in for anyone..we normally use standard mobil 1, unless someone specifically asks for synthetic...heres a lil tip....they sell full synthetic..synthetic blend, and standard oils...instead of paying premium price for the synthetic blend...buy one quart of full synthetic, and mix it with your regular oil...most 3.8's take 4.5 quarts...so you'd just replace one quart with synthetic....also, its not recommended to use full synthetic in higher mileage engines, due to the fact that its basically TOO slick..and may cause smoking and oil consumption...same thing with slick 50 treatment, and similar products...theyre tailored to be used with engines under 50,000 miles....when the engine tends to get its most breakin wear...if its had synthetic since new..its not so much an issue, because the engine tends to " wear" to the synthetic..vs wearing with higher friction using standard oil..THEN switching to synthetic...
_________________ Shawn's Auto Repair and Performance, SW Wis.
www.shawnsautorepair.procarcarezone.com
69 Olds Cutlass S
70 Olds Vista Cruiser Wagon
72 Olds Cutlass S, 12:1 470 stroker, JM40 solid lifter cam, TH400, 3500 10" PTC stall, 4.11 posi
74 442 455/TH350
79 Cutlass 455/TH375 sleeper
'97 GMC Sierra Ext Cab 9" lift w/ 37's
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88Ciera_SC
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Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2003 9:18 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:00 am Posts: 188 Images: 38 Location: Columbus Ohio
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i always use Castrol Syntec 10W30..full synthetic..
all 4 1/2 quarts.
it doesn't smoke or burn oil..not a drop..
she has 102,000 miles.
_________________ http://www.cardomain.com/id/88ciera_sc
1988 Cutlass Ciera SC
3.8L Sequential Fuel Injection
Horsepower- 160 @ 4000 RPM<factory lie
Torque(lb-ft)-215 @ 2750 RPM
Displacement- 3802cc
4 Speed Automatic
This WAS My Dad's Oldsmobile
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speedy266
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Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2003 12:26 am |
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Joined: Wed Jun 25, 2003 10:23 pm Posts: 350 Images: 18 Location: Ontario, Canada
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ya since the car was bought in 1985, its gotten nothing but premium, but ya i actually find an advantage in premium, gas mileage, burns cleaner, runs smoother, ive noticed people who use regular gas have noisey engines, mines very quiet. It has a stable idle around 600-650rpm, thats after the bosch platinum 4+ sparks. I opened up the engine about 2 months ago, to change all the gaskets, and everything inside was cleannnn! oh ya i put in slick 50 for older engines, it works great to, it coats metal surfaces, and when i opened the engine i actually saw that coating! but ya, im happy with it, i'll get a pic of it up soon enough for ya all.
_________________ 1985 Oldsmobile Cutlass Ciera
3.8L (231) V6 MPFI
AC Delco Rapidfire Spark Plugs
Accel Brute Thunder HEI Super Coil
Accel Ignition Module
MSD Rotor
Hypertech 180F Thermostat
Mister Transmission Fluid Cooler
Cool Collar Oil Filter Cooler
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86Delta
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Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2003 11:33 pm |
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Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:47 pm Posts: 281 Images: 22 Location: NJ, USA
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just regular AC Delco plugs and wires for me. AC Delco oil filters for my car too because for some reason my car knocks at every start up with Filter Pro filters, very strange.
as far as customers cars at work, unless they are pinching pennies, we try to push the premium stuff, like AC Delco ignition parts and Motorcraft. have found that even KEM's premium line sometimes ends up coming back. Standard and Borg Warner ignition parts are just garbage. Standard wire sets are always at least 6 inches too long. KEM works, but doesn't fit as well at AC Delco.
as far as filters go, GROUP 7 or Filter Pro for oil filters, whatever cheap brand the parts store has for fuel filters (all i can get is either Wix or Hastings at a decent price and the quality is really going down, so the cheap filter is a less money and the same quality) and air filters, GROUP 7.
oil, usually Shell, we get it in 55 gallon drums, usually middle of the pack regarding price.
IMO, all these fancy synthetics aren't worth it, i agree with 73 as long as you keep it clean it should be ok.
gas, don't use premium when you don't have to, waste of money and actually it lessens mileage because premium is harder to burn than regular to prevent predetonation (pinging) in high compression engines.
_________________ http://members.cardomain.com/86delta
"When they kick at your front door, how you gonna come, with your hands on your head, or on the trigger of your gun?" The Clash
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BigBlockOlds
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 12:46 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 04, 2004 7:20 pm Posts: 171 Images: 3 Location: Ohio
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I use Autolite #75 plugs in my 455. They've been really great. I don't know that I buy into the whole multiple electrode gimic thats been popular lately.
To fire the plugs I'm using a Crane HI-6 CD ignition with rev-limiter, Mallory Unilite distributor, Crane LX-92 race coil, and Taylor 8mm plug wires.
So far this has been a very reliable system.
For oil I was running Mobile 1 full synthetic but switched back to conventional oil. If you have a leak, that synthetic oil will find it. LOL
For fuel I run Sunoco 93 octane.
_________________ Andrew
468/T-56/3.73
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88Ciera_SC
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:23 pm |
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Joined: Tue Jun 10, 2003 1:00 am Posts: 188 Images: 38 Location: Columbus Ohio
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I always use Castrol Syntec and an AC-Delco filter.
AC Delco plugs and just recently installed Accel 8mm super stock spiral core wires.
_________________ http://www.cardomain.com/id/88ciera_sc
1988 Cutlass Ciera SC
3.8L Sequential Fuel Injection
Horsepower- 160 @ 4000 RPM<factory lie
Torque(lb-ft)-215 @ 2750 RPM
Displacement- 3802cc
4 Speed Automatic
This WAS My Dad's Oldsmobile
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Psyco Diver 69
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Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2004 4:49 pm |
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Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2003 1:20 am Posts: 207 Images: 8 Location: South NJ
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Thats one clean engine bay!!
_________________ Jake 19/m
1972 Olds 442 - 350/th350/3.73 posi - Project "C6 Killa"
1985 Olds Cutlass Supreme - 231/th200c/2.41 peg leg - winter beater
1972 Olds Cutlass- Parts car
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