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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:49 pm 
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Sorry, I accidentally edited your post with my reply- Please feel free to re-edit my mistake with your original post, if you saved it.


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as for andrew k's comment- i would like to know what exactly youre trying to get at and what exactly it has to do with exaust and main topic of the thread.


I guess subtlety is not your strong suit. I called you a ricer. Don't be offended, I wasn't (that) serious.

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as for the alky injection, it does the same thing with N/A engines it cools the intake charge and the primary reason i use it is for the "steam clean" effect it has on the valves and other internals. As for power making with alky on a N/A 3.8...nothing from what i can tell.


Any thought as to perhaps the damage potential from "steam cleaning" the internals?



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 8:55 pm 
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lol yea ok i figured the ricer thing was coming. but no rice here though seriously. thats why im dedicated to making these big ass family sedans embarass the hondas as much as possible :twisted: one step at a time.

as for the alky subject......no it dosent hurt your internals at all or affect gaskets but thats with a denatured alk./water mix if you were to use methanol/water mix it cause corrosion on the internals



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:04 pm 
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........ Your Maturity is just out of this world ........

What did he say that was immature? Post the quote, along with your response.

After that, tell us how your statement was not childish.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2007 9:11 pm 
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88 Coupe wrote:
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........ Your Maturity is just out of this world ........

What did he say that was immature? Post the quote, along with your response.

After that, tell us how your statement was not childish.

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I owe you no explanation norm, and its not your business ,that would be between me and andrew to talk about if he had a problem with it.



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 5:22 am 
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91parkave wrote:
........ and its not your business ........

You are on a public forum. When you posted, it became everyones business.

By being accusatory, you advertised your own immaturity.

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88 Coupe wrote:
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........ and its not your business ........

You are on a public forum. When you posted, it became everyones business.

By being accusatory, you advertised your own immaturity.

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being accusatory makes you immature? get a life, i told you what the deal was so why are you still trying to have a discussion about it? :dead:



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:13 am 
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........ why are you still trying to have a ........

Responding to your posts.

Nothing more, nothing less.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 10:17 am 
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........ I think I have heard some rice burners that sound better than that.

yea raspy and a camera phone ........

Why did you post it?

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Whoa, I did not say that, you've misquoted me.
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Mabye it's just me, but that Buick sounds more like a civic with a slightly deeper tone. :(


It sounds better than a ricer, but it does lead one to assume your car leans more toward the raspy-high RPM stuff, but It could completely be camera's fault.

To get the topic back on track;
Ras, I don't know what to do or say other than show you the clip of my car with a flowmaster on it, and tell you that mine has the 260ci V8.

Each car sounds different, however this isn't an expensive, or labor intensive modification, mine cost about $120 with shipping, and took about 15 minutes to install.

Good luck, should you decide to do it, I hope she sounds great!



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DarkFox wrote:
Whoa, I did not say that, you've misquoted me ........

Should have been afrats instead of dark fox. I deleted the wrong name when I trimmed it.

[ quote="afrats"][ quote="DarkFox"]Mabye it's just me, but that Buick sounds more like a civic with a slightly deeper tone. :([/quote]
I would have to agree. I think I have heard some rice burners that sound better than that.[/quote]

I apologize for my error, and any resulting misunderstandings.

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im weary to put any money into my car that i cant take out in an unspeakable event. i.e. severe accident etc. i dunno thought...im really on the edge on this one


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im weary to put any money into my car that i cant take out in an unspeakable event. i.e. severe accident etc. i dunno thought...im really on the edge on this one


How much is your enjoying the hobbie worth too you? I your doing this to enjoy the car then go for it, if not why change it?



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im not actually sure lol

i just started this whole car thing. im pretty much new to everything.

in retrospect, if i look back to the beginning of the summer, the first thing i wanted to do was swap my v6 for a v8. im just happy i was able to figure out all the audio shenanigans (knock on wood: installing tomorrow)

im going back to school in 2 weeks and i prob wont be able to maintain a good source of income to pay for gas and any customizations. Depending on how much time/money i have in the next few months, maybe i can do it by xmas break.

my bro was tryin to explain some stuff to me and said something about how flowmasters arent straight enough to add performance? or something? compared to other exhaust like magnaflow, whats the difference between the two?


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raskull wrote:
........ flowmasters arent straight enough to add performance? ........

He is only partially right.

All mufflers use some sort of "baffle" to control volume, by restricting exhaust flow.

Performance versions can increase flow over factory mufflers, with different designs, but at an increased sound level. How much trade off one chooses, depends whether sound or power gain is the higher priority.

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........ whats the difference between the two?

http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/mufflers.html
http://www.magnaflow.com/

There is nothing in either site, that gives me anything to work with.

When compared to their actual competition, dynamometer comparisons have shown Flowmasters to be in the middle of the group. They do have a distinctive sound that seems to be popular in some cultures.

I know nothing about Magnaflow.

Bottom line: Take the advice you were given in the first two replies.

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as for the alky subject......no it dosent hurt your internals at all or affect gaskets but thats with a denatured alk./water mix if you were to use methanol/water mix it cause corrosion on the internals


I wouldn't be worried about gaskets. I would be worried about washing the cylinders more than anything else. I would be curious to see a tear down of that engine, and see what the bore and valve stem/guide measurements are in comparision to "normal wear".

How long have you done this?



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around 7-8 months, as for washing the cylinders the mist of the alky/water mixture is very fine,so that wouldnt be a isssue. i only spray when i im at WOT when im going on to the highway and such.



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