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73Delta88
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 Posted: Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:58 pm |
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ok, sounds like you're describing a mechanical gauge there...
I gota believe there's more ways to hook up a temp gauge then to have to rig something up from home depot under my hood. You just plumb it right into the water jacket? how's it run the gauge? vacuum?
I'm looking for more of an overview of how different kinds of temp gauges work, pros/cons of different kinds... etc.
Thanks for the info so far... 
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Psyco Diver 69
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 Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:27 am |
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texasred wrote: Sorry...misunderstood the question.
Idiot light-a voltage is run through the "HOT" light bulb which then goes to the temp sensor on the intake. As water temp rises, the sensor's resistance decreases until it heats up enough to ground the wire which completes the circuit. Light comes on.
Gauge-Same thing,pretty much. A voltage is sent through the gauge which then goes to the temp sensor on the intake. As water temp rises, the sensor's resistance decreases. The gauge is a meter which measures the resistance.
Sensors are not interchangable.
There's no other type of water temp gauge out there.
Make sense?
C.J.
I have a water temp guage that doesn't use eletricity (except for the light bulb) it has a thermostat that screw into the intake where the water passeage is and is connect to my guage via a cable, as the temperature rises, whatever is in the thermostat pushes the cable which moves the needle on the guage. Most aftermarket temp guages are like this, mine is a brand new autoguage, be carefull because if you bend the cable to much the cable in side will either not move or break
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73Delta88
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 Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:58 am |
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texasred wrote: A voltage is sent through the gauge which then goes to the temp sensor on the intake. As water temp rises, the sensor's resistance decreases. The gauge is a meter which measures the resistance.
There's no other type of water temp gauge out there.
Make sense? Psyco Diver 69 wrote: I have a water temp guage that doesn't use eletricity (except for the light bulb) it has a thermostat that screw into the intake where the water passeage is and is connect to my guage via a cable, as the temperature rises, whatever is in the thermostat pushes the cable which moves the needle on the guage. Most aftermarket temp guages are like this
ok, so It seems texasred has an electronic gauge and Psyco has a mechanical one.... 
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andrewk
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 Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 12:55 pm |
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As far as ease of installation, go with a electric gauge. Its just wiring. I had a mechanical one, and the line from the sencor to the gauge was filled with ether  When I put it in i didn't like it, and lucky for me,when the line broke I wasn't driving. It almost knocked me out! Just my opinion, but go with an electric gauge.
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texasred
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 Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 2:51 pm |
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andrewk wrote: ...the line from the sencor to the gauge was filled with ether  When I put it in i didn't like it, ...
I didn't like it ether.  Sorry...couldn't resist.
Psycho...good to see ya! I've never used the type of gauge you're talking about.
I learn something new every day...if I'm lucky!
C.J.
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Psyco Diver 69
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 Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 8:48 pm |
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texasred wrote: andrewk wrote: ...the line from the sencor to the gauge was filled with ether  When I put it in i didn't like it, ... I didn't like it ether.  Sorry...couldn't resist. Psycho...good to see ya! I've never used the type of gauge you're talking about. I learn something new every day...if I'm lucky! C.J.
I check on every olds website, but only post when I feel I need too. I'm surprised you never used one, they were the only guage anyone could use till the mid 90s when the eletric ones came out, even now mechanical are cheaper and most guage companies sell them
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1972 Olds 442 - 350/th350/3.73 posi - Project "C6 Killa"
1985 Olds Cutlass Supreme - 231/th200c/2.41 peg leg - winter beater
1972 Olds Cutlass- Parts car
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texasred
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 12:45 am |
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Psyco Diver 69 wrote: I'm surprised you never used one, they were the only guage anyone could use till the mid 90s when the eletric ones came out, even now mechanical are cheaper and most guage companies sell them
I've only had electric ones since I started roddin' in the 70's. I vaguely remember another type...but never used it. Must be what you are talking about.
C.J.
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88 Coupe
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:46 am |
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Hello everyone,
Quote: ........... they were the only gauge anyone could use till the mid 90s when the eletric ones came out ..........
Make that the mid '50s. When warning lights first appeared, gauges became an option, and because they changed to electric, they could use the same wire for the light or gauge.
Mechanical is better, but electric is a simpler install, and is better suited to production lines.
Ask yourself how often you will actually look at the gauge. If you answer honestly, you'll choose the light, as it will grab your attention at the time a problem occurs. All you really need to know is, at what temp the light comes on.
If one chose to use both, the same pipe fittings at "Home Depot" are availabe at ones local auto parts supplier.
Or one could pay a lot more on eBay for the same fittings because they are the same as were used on 442s in the 60s and 70s.
An electronic gauge would be digital, as opposed to an electrically switched gauge or light.
Regards, Norm
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