In order to get the most out of the board, your goals, budget and all those other questions Norm asked you should be answered so that the best recommendation can be made. Not sure what you are going after other than "more launch" I am assuming that by that you mean you want quicker low end acceleration, and the best way to do that, as mentioned a few times in your threads, is a gear change. Going from a 2.xx, or low 3 to a 3.55 or 3.73 will feel like a hundred horsepower. Anyway, Let us know your goals (eg- ET, 60 ft time, etc) other than just "more launch"

Andrew

Since his street racing experience is with Camaros, and he's new to Olds, he asked for specifics. How and what to shed? What gear ratio? What tires? What engine upgrades?
I made some suggestions on where weight can be shaved(some more practical then others), but you just want to fire away at them. Ultimately it will be his choice what on the car stays or goes, but the car needs to shed weight or make that much more power to compensate....making more power is far more expensive. I did suggest a middle of the road gear set and what type of tire to look for (do you need brands and models?) upgrades, like cam, intake, carb, air inlet, exhaust...specifics are hard to give when he's not being specific as to his goals.

I'm also curious, because I've never done a '77 Cutlass.

neither have I but its pretty much common sense, what makes one car faster should be adaptible to another, same basics apply, the difference of course being in the parts used.If you ask a general question like "how do I go faster", the answer, IMHO, has to be vague

from one of his other locked posts
"When holding the brakes and building up the rpm it turns the tires over pretty good and then takes off. I'm trying to get a nice holeshot without burning my pockets either. I know you guys can help me get my 77 Cutlass right"
this is clear and concise, I can show you were to get the answer for this one. www.tciauto.com, they have a questionaire on there getting specifics about your car so that they can make an educated recomendation on which of their torque converters will fullfill your needs. Personally I'd stay aware from a stall more then 500 rpms over stock... 300-400 over stock is probably ideal for you but see what TCI says. Since they know far more of their products then I do.

Thanks

ANY PARTICULAR REASON FOR USING BLUE FONT?

ANY PARTICULAR REASON FOR NOT CORRECTING YOUR CODE BEFORE YOU POST?

NOT ONLY ARE YOU MAKING YOUR POSTS CONFUSING AND HARD TO READ, BUT ON MOST BOARDS IT'S CONSIDERED RUDE.

MY USE OF CAPS, IN THIS INSTANCE, IS INTENTIONAL, AND I BELIEVE THE REASON IS OBVIOUS.

PLEASE MAKE THE CORRECTIONS, SO WE MAY CONTINUE.

when typing within the copy, another color makes text easier to distinguish, if colors othre then black were unacceptible why is there an option on this or any other board? I post on about 7 or 8 boards, first time anyone has said anything about "other then black text" If you wish to type in all caps go ahead, most people will just think you are insane

Heeere we go.

In case I can't read? Have you had trouble reading my posts? Do I need to change the color of my fonts so I can be understood?

Using tags correctly would make all the text in your posts easier to distinguish.

Changing font/format is also a tactic that's used to obscure any points one might have trouble answering. Handy when calling someone a liar (Which I'll adress when we return to the sublect).

Then again, it might be another try at a diversion, since the "Tinker" thing didn't fly.


I don't know, maybe someone else will answer on a different thread.


Maybe it wasn't used as a diversion. Maybe it was and no one noticed.


I made my point.


Name calling is not productive.

Now, if you'll make the corrections, We can get back on topic.

Is that extra butter? I have nachos and soda

perhaps it was late and some of us are rusty on HTML commands, was just easy to change color and therefore seperate my responses from yours. i can admit I am definately NOT the world's most PC savvy, I know just enough to be dangerous


if I wanted to avoid responding to you, wouldn't I just not respond? What a concept

diversion or a better comparison then a 50 88 versuses a 77 Cutlass. I stand by my anology


rhetorical question regaurding the font colors


divert your attention by trying to draw attention to my responses? is that like hiding in plain view? <-rhetorical






I didn't call you a name....calling you a name would be like "you are an idiot" or "hey, bonehead..." I made a statement of perception...when people type in all caps, netiquitte (sorry for the mis-spelling I am a tad intoxicated, I hope atleast I am coherent) dictates that all caps = yelling, if you wish to shout out your responses go ahead...there are two other conclusions one can draw about all caps, but assuming anger is the nicest assumption.



man i am not sure this post is going to display right and adding all the quote and end quote tags was a bare, sorry but there is no way I am going to fix the other post.....don't re-read it if its such an eyesore

OK, it was all an accident. Yeah, that's the ticket.


Please explain the specifics of your analogy, and how someone named "Tinker" and his 3000#, "back halved '48 "something or other", has anything to do with this thread.


Easier to make excuses, than to do it right? I''ll work around it, because I don't wish to inconvenience you.

I haven't read it. I requested you fix your f****ps, so I could read it.


Would it help you understand the obvious, if I told you I knew that?


Rather than stating the obvious, please, give us some practical suggestions. You know, something that might apply specifically to his car. Something he can actually use.

Regards, Norm

whoooooooooo! andrewk, were running out of chill pills

Yeah, I need to call in that perscription huh?

Not dealing with locked posts. They were locked for a reason.

In my experience, the second is deleted and the offender warned. The third is deleted and the offender banned.

If he had posted that information on this thread, I would have asked him to elaborate. Like all his others, he did not include enough information.

But, I digress.

Your link doesn't work on four of my machines. Probably due to my firewall settings. If it did, it would go to TCIs home page. A link to the page you referenced would be appropriate, and I welcome any discussion involving TCIs generic information.


So, based on your experience, 300-400 over stock will fit his intended use perfectly? In spite of what TCI might say?

My experience says, +500 RPM can improve fuel mileage around town, provide an excellent placebo effect, and net little, if any, 60' improvement. In a lighter car you might see some gain in that same 60'.


Obviously, they know their own products, but do they know his particular combo?


Given those parameters, any significant weight loss is not practical.

BTW: Did I mention, a simple gear change can make gains equal to 1000#, or more, of weight reduction?


This one led me to believe he's into serious street racing. Whether he is or isn't, makes a big difference in his choice of gears and converter.


That's a given. It was a given when he first said '77 Cutlass. Doesn't mean he can't make significant improvements without reducing weight.


You seem to have a penchant for stating the obvious. I doubt you'll ever find any one that will dispute your statement.
Anyone with any experience, however, will question, as I have, your application of that information.


$1200 USD spent in the right areas would make him extremely happy without lifting the hood

Regards, Norm

Can you get teh "family sized" bottle at Sam's? I am growing weary of the Spanish Inquizition already. I have answerred the original poster's vaugue question with a vague answer but someone else feels the need to hyjack the thread and go over my posts with a fine tooth comb, contributing nothing to this thread aside from showing he has some sort of axe to grind. Reducing weight may seem elementry but how many people overlook it? I searched all of Bigdog's threads, I found a question that I could answer specifically and did so, as far as I am now concerned the thread is over.

If you wish to bitch and moan about my HTML skills, create a new thread that can be ignored in the order it was typed. If you don't like my anologies, just say you think they are BS, but your insistance that I am trying to "type around" your questions is bull, however I can assure you my desire to respond to you is drastically diminishing. Perhaps in your divine wisdom, 1) YOU can give US the answers you seek from ME 2) you can try a tad harder to contribute to the subject of this thread (instead of acting like a cyper-terrorist) 3) you can just try shutting up.

PS pass some of that popcorn

PPS TCI's webpage has a detailed questionaire on it asking vehicle specs and desired outcome, I conceed that people who make and sell torque converters have ALOT more knowledge on them, maybe its me but if the car is essentially stock anything more then a "mild" stall is a waste. No matter what his biggest hamperring is a lack of power and weight, since it takes more torque to move a heavier object. loosing ANY weight should help the car get going faster....basic laws of inertia here. You can either make more power, have less weight or figure how to lessen parasatic losses. Which option is the cheapest? <--- not rhetorical