Why?..Was it too confusing to understand?...Some questions stump you? Read it again, and when you do make sure you got dictionary next you!

So Coupe. This post isn't to be an ass, or a smart ass, or whatever you think I try and do on EVERY post I make, i mean litteraly EVERY post I make here is somehow bad or not correct, you'll find something wrong with it.
So question, why? Why you gotta be such an asshole. The point of me and others coming here so we can learn more about it. So whenever we make a post that doesn't "suit" you, you go and start flaming in your own smartass way. And I'll bet you'll turn this one around too and make me look like an ass. Why? Do you get your jollies off knowing you're smarter about cars then someone else, or whats the deal?
Don't get me wrong, this aint to flame you, caz I like to talk to someone that knows their sh&t, but WTF?

Yes. Maybe because of the authors Dyslexia.

Dude I aint got time for that, just go to any of them. And what else freaks me out is how can you sit there and "quote" someones post, doesnt that take about a half hour each?

Ya!...I guess no matter where you go there is always a set of "Rules"
A really really good example of OCD!

You are not the first to complain about my posts. I have challenged every one of them to post an example for discussion. Not one has.

I believe, and have said numerous times, those posts cannot be found because they do not exist.

If you cannot post an example, you have nothing to discuss.


Isn't it my time?

Norm

I see you cannot find an example either?

Yes! An invitation! I feel privileged to talk to you what I think about you, especially after your own personal consent.

Now, I'm sure your a probably just a normal contributor to society and only want to help, but I just have a little problem with how you deal with people. Now ggevaert is just looking for a few pointers, and although he isn't a mechanic, and may not know everything, he knows enough, and wants to learn. What's so wrong about that? I've been a teacher many times to other classmates in my training course because they have trouble with a part of the task for the day. I treat them with respect, and make sure they understand everything before I call it a job well done. I would expect no less from anyone else. But some of they ways you seem to want to teach this poor guy do not help one bit. Now if you don't mind I hope to bring up a few sections from the thread I am talking about to argue my point.



Since when did personal attacks do anything good for the sake of finding answers(which is what you say you seem to do)?






Who said this was a competent/honest shop? They may be competent, but they don't seem to be honest. Now I don't have the vehicle in front of me so I can see exactly what the problem is, but providing the information this person gave to us is correct, a faulty ABS Module will not cause the problem. The only reason a module would produce a braking pattern like that is if it got inputs to it that were faulty, giving it a reason to give that output, not knowing any better. This is how computers work, welcome to the future. The reason I believe the mechanic gave this person that estimation, was to upsell him hoping he wouldn't know any better. This is the reality of the trade. ABS modules run for quite a few bones these days, and if the mechanic can sell the customer this product then he has made his business he works for some money, and some extra cash for himself. I have already explained this in the other thread.



You know, I looked through your posts in that thread again and again and for the life of me couldn't find any proof of your accusation. Could you direct me to it? Because I don't seem to be competent enough to find it.



Oops, there's that little thing called proof revealing it's fuzzy little head again. What makes you think that cost was the issue? It very well could be, ABS modules are very pricey, but was it necessary? Nope. Even now, a module is very unlikely to be the problem. Computer components do not fail unless they are physically damaged. Mechanical components do fail because they are moving all the time, and tend to be exposed to the elements more often than a PC circuit board and processor. Now if he replaces the module and all is well, then hey, I was wrong. Such is the way of reality. But given what I have to work with here, above is what I believe it is, and you assume too much.



Um, why do you think the myths about dealerships and repair shops are there in the first place? Sadly, bad opinions travel much faster and farther than good opinions of shops. As stated before, such is the way of reality. Now, he isn't the first person to perpetuate this myth, don't act like he is the only and should be condemed for it. It's the technician's fault for starting the bad reputation train, he shouldn't be doing it in the first place. But the benifits of doing this ususally cause techs to do this. Don't shoot the messenger.



Hey look! We've found a different animal! This one's name is ASSUMPTION. As I have noticed throughout this thread, you assume so many things about this guy and his friends that it almost seems like your attacking this guy personally. What are we? 12? Come on, if you have a problem with some things he is saying, bring some proof, a substantial argument that makes sense, and mabye you won't tick people off because you will have made an argument people can agree with. Till then, grow up, and bring some proof to the fight before you start something.



Wow, you really have quite the attitude there bud. And you wonder why people hate you.



I could go on and on about what you did wrong, but then I would have become you wouldn't I? In summary, I have a few suggestions, bring some proof to the fight, NEVER ASSUME, learn to accept reality, don't take it out on other poor souls, and especially drop the attitude! Try and do these things, then maybe people will admit your right, your hater list will dramatically decrease in size, and you might actually go far in life. You see, what you fail to understand, is that people use forums like this for information. When they post for help on a topic, they don't want someone like you picking them apart for things they seem to have done wrong according to such an intellectual as yourself. Hence is the reason why they get irritated, and it is also the reason why I pursue this argument with you. If you find that you don't want to change, then that's fine. Some people refuse to change, it is part of being human. Just don't be surprised when reality punches you in the face somewhere along the line.

Also, some quotes you should remember:
Such is the way of reality
You assume too much
I treat them with respect, and make sure they understand everything before I call it a job well done. I would expect no less from anyone else.




Certainly feels good to be a first.

Was this a personal attack? Explain.


Read the first post again, paying special attention to numbers 1 thru 9.

Norm

Edited: To shorten and simplify the discussion.

Sure Coupe, here's an example, since you just HAVE to have one.

http://www.oldsconnection.com/forum/vie ... 53&start=0

Nothing but flaming the guy, but according to you, other TOC members can magicaly find some information in it. Like who?

And childish this and that, you got to come up with something new. And why do you have so much time flaming others? You retired? Or just no life?

Read #9 again.

Pick an example, then post the quote?

Norm

Yea let's all follow Coupes rules down to the T, or else he will smithe you with his flaming vengence!

Or don't. No one is making you do anything. Just don't be surprised when he, or anyone busts your chops.

We all have freedom of speech here. Say what you like, read what you like, ignore what you don't. It's that simple. Just remember that you dig your own grave, or build your own hill.

Andrew

I received a PM earlier, I now see things differently.

This post is really not what this site is about, flame me for saying this, but it will make you look worse by doing so!

One key element to this is..."Ignore it if it bothers you"