Well, if you toss on a $250 paint job, add some hubcaps, and clean that engine, you could have a real nice car. If it started right up after sitting for 5 months then that alone makes it worth fixen.

when i get some more money in like twomonths i be buyin them alero rims and i be painting the car triple black with a red metillic flake in the paint o and by the way thanks 88delta 88 for standing up for me seem s every move i make around here i get push around in here and im reallY getting tried of it like he said it don t madder what parts i putt on my car im a freakin toc member u should respect that well now that i got that out my system

Your car looks like it's comming alont nicely. I know how hard it is to do anything to a car when you have no money. Once you get the rims and the paint it will be one of the best cars on toc. I bet your system kicks a$$, it looks sweet too. Keep up the good work.

YEA IT PUSHES SO GOOD LOW END BASS ` im working on the system today gonna install the 6x9 s and take the other side door moldings off and try and sand down and pryer the rust u guys can look for the subs enclose soon prob june it almost like 88delta88 s but my subs are gonna be facing the front im gonna have plexie glass where the back is so i can showoff the flames on the subs and im gonna have red neon rings around the subs a red neon insidethe encloser and a mirror angled to show off them flames also when u get the decals pm me and ill buy 1 off u thank s btw them rims im getting ain t they just the best STOCK rims u seen in a long time plus they olds

whoa, whoa, whoa 88delta.....

I simply said I was gonna keep my mouth shut on this one..I didn't say his car was a P.O.S....If you'd like to hear my opinion, here it is in a nutshell....

Personally, do I like it? No, I don't..BUT, you're talking to a person who grew up around classic musclecars, works on classic musclecars, is the president of a car club which has mostly all classic musclecars and street rods, and has a driveway full of classic musclecars, so my opinion is a bit biased, I guess.

Do I like "ricers"? Yes, to a point I can honestly admit that I do. I prefer ones that have a cleaner look to them, without so much "bling" (wings, stickers, lights, overdone paint, huge wheels, etc), so to speak, rather than ones that appear to be overdone. Hell, my Vista is lowered on 17's, with a LARGE stereo system...some may consider THAT riced, I look at it as improving an already classic look with a SLIGHT altitude adjustment and wheels which fit the look of the vehicle...

I'll most DEFINETLY give props to 420, as even though his car is NOT my "cup of tea", so to speak, he appears to honestly enjoy his car, as well as enjoy working on it, so if the "ricer" look is what floats his boat, so be it...I'm more than willing to help him out when I can, although when it comes to the looks department I'll most likely keep my mouth shut so as not to offend him or make him feel like hes being made fun of....we ALL had to start out on or cars somewhere..at least he's making an effort to improve his car...whether we like it that way or not, its his car and hes doing it the way he wants to...more power to him, I say...

I believe that the area someone lives in can possibly influence their ideas of how they should dress up their car...I'm "assuming" that 420 is most likely from a larger area of PA, (by the way he wants to fix his car up, his choice of attire, as well as his grammar, sentence structure, and the way he "speaks") where there is a larger following of the "ricer" crowd than there is in my area...same with some of the others here who's rides tend to be more "pimped" out....since I'm away from the larger populated areas I don't see it as much around this area, where when I go to the larger cities its much more common.....just another reason why I LIKE living in Hicksville, USA

So, in closing...420, if YOU like it, thats really all that matters, isn't it??? I've taken shit time and time again for not choosing to "run with the crowd" and drive a Chevy, since they're supposedly so much cheaper and more common...ya know what? I LIKE being DIFFERENT and UNCOMMON, so F**K EM IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT!!!! Thats why we drive Olds!!!!

...and for my one SMALL cheap shot...look at it this way, 420..if your car does ever happen to break down, at least you have a grab handle on the back to push with now! (I hope you know I meant this good naturedly)

ok now i got to admit that was a good 1 i would of neva thought of it that way but u do make a point but since i put that wing on damn that trunk got heavy and and the statement of being different is so true u don t kno how many ppl ask me y oldsmobile isn t that a granny car and i reply by yea and they say why don t u get a honda or something beta i say it was my grandma s and grandpa s and i want to keep there memory in my eye s and heart since this is the only thing i have that was theres

but all and all i luv my olds andwould not trade it for nuttin now if this thing goes bad ill just get a diff olds ciera

That's understandable....keep on rocking your pyramids....whatever suits you best, go all out man!

TOC Admin
Brando

The new pics of the sound system are added to the end of the webpage.


Oldsmobile420's car

Did you just like...punch a couple holes through the rear deck for those 6x9"s? You should put a grill on top of those....the subwoofer neons look pretty cool...

TOC Admin
Brando

Thats where the stock ones were mounted. All we had to do was drill holes for the bolts. Then we just cut holes in the carpet to show off the redness of the 6x9s. Eventually we will put grills on. Also today we ordered red bulbs to replace all the interior lights and trunk light.

minor imperfections as in that stupid wing you put on her or him or it..

want to see a wing that looks good on a ciera???

check it out...

and it's as functional as it looks too...

and for the stickers..
want to see some good stickers for your car?

check these out.


did someone say spinner rims?
are you serious?

tell me spinners look better then these and i'll buy you the dang spinners from kmart.



word of advice, get rid of the ciera and buy your self a nice lil jap car to put that stuff on..
your wasting your time and your money,but mostly your time.

1st off i took that p.o.s wing off on my car so i could have a beta 1 and for the decals well i just don t like those my look best on my car and for those rims i give them a 4 out of ten the ones im getting off a 2002 alero look ten times beta then them

tell you what mr. rice burner man.
go get all your bling or what ever you think it is and i'll still blow you away with my bone stock SUPER COUPE..

your wasting your time on that car is what i'm saying.
at least start with a nice ciera .

4 banger..give me a break..what you smoking man..

u kno what fuck u man this was my grandpa s and grandma s car and its the only thing i got to remember them by ppl like u sure do lick ass i don t c what ur beef is wit ppl that try and make there olds beta but u go and try and make ur car all high and mighty just becuz u have a v 6 plus my car ain t for speed its gonna be a show car plus us toc member shouldn t bash on other members car s i mean wtf i thought when i joined this team that ppl would help and not bash each others cars

People got their own personal taste...
88Ciera_SC likes to keep it simple and stock, while oldsmobile420 likes to rice his shit out. It's the way things are, we can't change the way either of you mod/or don't mod your cars. But we can give advice. Don't need to start a fight over it....88Ciera_SC, instead of insulting his car, just tell him what he could do to it (now now...hehe), and don't fight over something that's not going to get anywhere. I for one like the stock look of 88Ciera_SC...it's not everyday you see a nice looking car of that age. But that's my personal taste. We each got our own opinion, but I think it's right that as TOC Members, we shouldn't bash each others cars. Just point out stuff you don't like and say what you would do...

TOC Admin
Brando