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PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2004 7:18 am 
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weesh, touchy subject :P

out of curiousity, what would happen, if oooo say, i refused to go? what if they came to drag me away and i would just clinch my door knob while they tugged at my feet until the whole door ripped off the hinges? Me personally *my personal feelings, don't care what you think or anyhting of the sorts* i think there is no need for a draft, as there are plenty of volunteers already signed up. if my history serves me correctly *i could be wrong* the reason for the previous draft was because noone wanted to sign up in the army. I dont think we have that problem now. When you live hrere in hampton roads, home of langley and oceana, you see thousands of military, *and then at my work damn jets constantly flying overhead close enuff to read their call signs :P

I don't know, comes down to it i guess i would *but i would be kicking and screaming alllllll the way there*, but i don't think it would ever be inacted.



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Better watch it darkshadow, you start post like this (saying u wouldnt wanna go) Strokers gonna be on your ass in a second. And this is nothing just wait till you post about your next oil change or something, and he tries to tell you that u and a professinal mechanic are wrong about a car he (stroker) as never seen in his life. But dont wqrry i bet he wont call you an ass like he did me. Only he could get me to get into a internet war, stupid ass (stroker).



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You know what I think is funny 85cieraholiday, you are getting all upset about an issue that does not even effect you yet, not till your 18. I know that when I was 15 I didnt care about the draft. :)



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You know what I think is funny 85cieraholiday, you are getting all upset about an issue that does not even effect you yet, not till your 18. I know that when I was 15 I didnt care about the draft. :)


I was kinda thinking the same... :?
I'll be turning 18 just when the draft starts or would start...lucky me, eh? :lol:

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Im not upset over the issue at hand, im pissed because this guy is busten my balls for no reason AGAIN! Once again I placed a post with no malace (is that spelled right?) and he calls me a ass, coward, and then writes about the type of person I am when he has never met me. I said that I wouldnt fight in sucha unstable region, and I wouldnt. If they sent me to kosovo (which is still a unstable place) I would go, but no to a place where people with cars loaded with explosives are blowing others up. He implied (is that spelled right?) that I would be upset over the loss of a Micky D's (and I never go there anyway just to let you know, I eat at Subway and Dunkin Donuts). which was kinda babyish. He also starts off the topic (go look at it for yourself) with this sort of stupid ok Brando here i go or something like that I cant remember what it was, but it was really just a "whatch what i do to this one" type thing. He also seems to have a inferiority complex due to his belittleing comments to someone who doesnt agree with him. Oldsguy gave me his responce much better, he showed his what I would call dissapointment in his post towards my not wanting to go to the Middle East, but he didnt call me a ass, and he posted with a sence of pride in what he has done, which I think he deserves. But stroker is simply someone who is overly confident, and to quick to speak, because I know Im not the only one who feels this way, and I didnt call him a ass for joining the army, so why would he call me one for not getting drafted into the army?



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And PS there aint gonna be no draft, to many americans against it, and in the New York Post ot Daily News it said BUSH doesnt want to increase the size of our armed forces, John Kerry does.

And I am a Bush supporter by the way.



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I don't have ANY problem with DarkShadows posting....he asked what may happen if someone said they didn't want to go, made comments about why he thought the draft wouldn't be enacted. Him and I, as well as most of the members and myself, have talked on several occasions in postings and I didn't have a problem with any of them.

You, on the other hand, I do have a problem with. Funny how you come here and talk your bullshit...yet when I call you out on it you try to make me look like the bad guy. Others posted to this topic stating that your comments were bogus, but you single me out. Oh, and then you have to drag the spark plug thing back into this :lol: ....funny, you had stated previously that you checked the plugs and one WAS cracked...now you suddenly change your story after I posted back, just to attempt to deface me and make me look bad :roll: . Funny, I think you've made yourself look like more of an ass than I could EVER do. Just looking at your posts following my response states that... "ohhh...Strokers gonna do this...or do that...you better watch out"...cry me a river, 85 :cry: . Get a life? Funny, I have one...its painfully obvious that you come here and post back to piss and moan about whatever thing you don't agree with, or about whoever disagrees with YOU. I'm not here looking for votes or trying to win a popularity contest. I'm not out to impress anyone, and I could REALLY give two shits less if you like me or not. I come here to help people out when I can, give advice to people who ask for it, and if they don't choose to listen, or think they're right even when it's obvious they're not, so be it. Oh...opinions....yep, all I did was post mine in regards to your statement about running for the border and not serving when called upon to do so, so you can give up arguing that as well. I'm not going to stoop to your level, and cry and whine about who did what to me, or how so and so treated me so bad and they're gonna go after you next...it's simply too childish. Brando and everyone else here who knows me at all knows I call it as I see it....straight and to the point with no bullshit attached. If you like it, fine...if you don't...fking deal with it. And you're right, to a point....I can be an asshole when I feel like it, which is usually when people like you come here, piss and moan to everyone about every little thing, don't listen to any advice given to you, and think you know it all. Know me? You know nothing about me. I'm about the nicest guy you'd ever meet, up till the time you get on the wrong side of me. I wasn't even thinking about the spark plug thing till you brought it up, and I then remembered it was you who wrote that topic.....now it all makes sense, and I can see why you wrote what you did in this topic. Hell, you wouldn't listen to anyone any other time, why start now? Maybe you SHOULD just move to Canada or wherever floats your boat....we sure as heck don't need people like you called up to serve in the military anyways...they'd probably all go AWOL and run the other direction.
Theres a shitload of other topics you've posted in that I've never responded to, either due to no input to add, or because it was something I wasn't particularily interested in...Christ, you try to make it sound like I'm stalking you or something... :roll: Do you want me to ship you a case of Kleenex? It sounds like you might need a tissue, the way you're whining to everyone :lol:

Inferiority complex? From YOU? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Now THATS a laugh! Belittling comments? I just posted my opinion, like you did. Oh, it wasn't the Army...it was the Navy. Excuse me for being patriotic, but when someone lives in the USA, enjoys the freedoms of the USA, and then turns tail and says they refuse to serve, or will only serve under certain situations, I call em a coward...but then again, its just an opinion, right? You said so yourself.....



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Look, I come here to get info about my car (Olds Connection as in I have a Olds) Your right, you can post your opinion, and you have the right to do so. I am mad becasue you went way over board with your post by dumping on me. Im not an ass, Im a very good person, and if you ever feel like comming out to CT there are quite a few people who can tell you that very samething. I dont understand the "People like you comehere and piss and moan about everything" part because what do I piss and moan about? Have I ever even complained to anyone on this site about anything?

As for the spark plugs, let me be 100% honest with you, I put that to shut you up! For a week or so everytime I went on it was you who was putting some kind of post saying I was way wrong when I knew I wasnt. After that last mini-internet war started to really get out of hand I just up that to put the fire out so that everyone could go back to ENJOYING this site.

I see that you help lots of people here, and a few times I do think that you may have given me good advice with car stuff. But I never call someone a ass when I see a post that I dissagreee with, I wouldnt even post if I were going to argue over every little thing.

As far as a popularity contest, duh no one here is in one, this is a small community and all these people (even I ) are here for the same reason, Oldsmobile.

Im glad u admitted that you can be an asshole because you showed in your previous post that you really can be. Do I know you, NOPE, and you dont know me. Ive never met you, and I wouldnt know you from John Smith if I saw you walking down the road.

The purpose of my fireing back wasnt to make it sound like u were stalking me, its clearly evident that your not, but im not so sure about why you responed so harshly.

And by the way, I really do want to move to Canada, been that way since I was about 11, maybe Ill change, but at this point idk.

So really this is what I got out of this.....
You responed in a harsh way for no real reason, you seem to think that I come here to bitch and moan, when to be quite FRANK, why would I bitch and moan to a bunch of people I dont know? YOu seem to be real proud of your time in the navy.

But as far as the GET A LIFE thing, really please get one, if your gonna act in such a way as you have in this topic, why bother responding?



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O yeah, see how I posted in paragraph form, not on big block of letters, much easier to read,just a thought cause that was a lot to read in one big paragraph.

PS as far as Kleenex, could you send me the ones with the aloe on them? They are much easier on my nose when I blow my nose. j/p



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one thing i refuse to debate about here is politics..

all i will share here is that i am way too old to be drafted..
if they needed 37 yr. old man then our country is in pretty bad shape.



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Does anyone here know about the canadian military (hahahaha, canadian military) doing drafts? I suppose its amusing that I have no clue as to what happens in canada here, do they draft? I dont even know!

I wouldnt want to go to war, I hate war, fighting, killing... But I would go if I were drafted. As darkshadow said, I'd hold my doorknob until they winched me away... But I would go for my country.

Canada's military for all I know, the biggest fleet of submarines we've got are in west edmonton mall.. :-) We rely on americans to defend us in the event of a catastrophe. Our military is so small and we dont have any equipment. I think we're indebted to americans for everything they supply to us that we take for granted.

When we dont agree what americans are going to war for, we step back and play the innocent little "we dont like to fight". But, if canada was attacked, and the US wasnt available or didnt want to help us out, we'd be totally screwed. Thats just my opinion on military status... Hope I dont start a big fight or something :-)



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Damn! 88, that was good to read your post. You are the first Canadian to admit that fact and I appreciate it. I think the same thing is true for France and that is why there is so much animosity towards them in particular now. Anyway thanks.

I see life through colored lenses (just like everyone else). Those lenses are colored by my age, upbringing, religious beliefs and experiences. I appreciate the opportunity to "vent" my feelings about a subject like this and you people allow it. And reciporication is only fair so I need to respect others and let them state their opinions as well, and remember that the viewpoint some of you younger guys have is in large part influenced by much different forces than those that influenced me.

Finally, a fair and objective observation. Nationalism in America is not at high of a level as it was when I was young. Good? Bad? who knows.........



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hmmmm this just keeps going....


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OldsGuy wrote:
and remember that the viewpoint some of you younger guys have is in large part influenced by much different forces than those that influenced me.


ITS THE DAMN TV I TELL YOU!!!! :) o yea, and the internet :P



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whoa..canada does have an army..it consists of helipcopters...broken down pos's that cost way to much to maintain :p they were going to replace them months back..then i stopped caring..personally i dont want to be part of any war..which is why living in canada is sweet..no one is gonna draft me.....



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