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DKnight
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Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 9:20 pm |
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Joined: Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:10 am Posts: 63 Location: Huntington, WV
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It's pretty much cheap stuff, but sounds pretty good all the same. My CD player is from Radio Shack, and is 120 watts. The two front 3.5" speakers each have small capacitors to filter out bass. I have two 5 1/4" speakers in my rear dash, and I'm gonna put caps on them too, but larger caps for lower frequency than the 3.5's. In the rear I have two Walmart 6 1/2" bass cannons 300watts peak each...I know...but they don't sound bad. Tomorrow I'm gonna hook up my old faithful 400 watt radio shack amp. Then I'll get some solid bass.
I'm not looking for all out volume. I'm just looking for decent sound with good solid bass. It's a bang for the buck type of system, but it sounds good to me. I used to have the amp hooked up to two 10" Optimus woofers, but I banged them around too much, so I needed other speakers.
DK
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86Delta
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 4:50 pm |
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Joined: Thu Nov 06, 2003 10:47 pm Posts: 281 Images: 22 Location: NJ, USA
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my system started the pretty much the same way. but i got bit by the sounds quality bug and have not stopped.
first upgrade: old school Alpine two knob tape deck, stock speakers
now that i look back on it, i could have afforded probably 2 L67 swaps with all the money i have ever spent on my system. everything has been upgraded at least once.
here's my system:
HU: Clarion DRX9675z pre-amp only CD head unit (36 color display)
Changer: Clarion 12 disc changer
Wiring: Streetwires Zero Noise 3.5 RCA's
Stinger and Lightning Audio 4 gauge power wires
2 Stinger 1 farad capacitors
Stinger maxi fuse holders
Streetwires and Stinger speaker wire
Amplifiers: Directed 4500 Amp - 4x75
Directed 600d Amp - 600x1 at 1 ohm
Speakers: Infinity Kappa Perfect 6.5" component set in the doors
Infinity Kappa 3way 6x9's in the rear deck
2 Rockford Fosgate Punch HX2 12" subs - dual 4ohm voice coils
Other stuff: Stinger cooling fans for the amps
4 Street Glow mini blue neon tubes for the amp rack
B-Quiet Xtreme sound deadender (trunk lid, under carpet on floor)
Dynamat original (inside front doors and trunk floor)
Cyberdyne amp temperature gauges
around 150 pounds of MDF
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strokercutlass
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Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:04 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:17 am Posts: 378 Images: 13 Location: Wis
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that was one of the things I liked about building my system in my Vista, 86..the car is so much heavier built, as well as in general, that even with the 15's, outside the car you can barely hear the stereo with the windows closed, although as soon as you open the door it about knocks a person on their ass!!
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DKnight
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 1:45 pm |
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Joined: Mon Nov 10, 2003 12:10 am Posts: 63 Location: Huntington, WV
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The 5 1/4" have their own plastic casings, and you can just sit them wherever you want. They're angled slightly forward, so I put them in the rear dash. Today I put caps in line with them to keep out the very low bass. Cleaned up the sound quite a bit. I also installed the amp today, and only used two of the channels, turned to about 85% gain. 30 watts per channel from the head unit plus 100 each from the amp make 260 peak watts to the bass cannons, but they can handle 600 peak. I bet they can only handle about 250 rms, though. I don't know, they're cheap, but effective.
Bang for the buck, I say. In fact, for 14.99 a piece a person could fill a trunk full of these suckers, and you'd register a 3 on the Richter scale.
Seriously, though, they're not like 10s or 12s, but they also don't require as much power to get them moving. In other words, they're more efficient. Cheap efficiency - ya can't beat that.
DK
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Psyco Diver 69
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Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2003 9:30 pm |
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Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2003 1:20 am Posts: 207 Images: 8 Location: South NJ
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I had a good system in my 85 Cutlass. I ran a Eclipse head unit with 2 Pioneer 3 way 6x9s out back with 2 Pioneer 2 way 4" up front and 2 12" Rockford Punch Zs in the back being powered by a USAccoustics 400 watt 2 channel. All I can say the Eclipse head unit made that system what it was, I bought 2 other head units brand new and still never came close to being as good as my Eclipse, I swear by them. I had probably the best sounding system in my school, it wasn't like all the other crappy "thump" systems.
In my 442 I running that same head unit with 2 6x9 Jenson and thats it. I plan to run I brand new Eclipse head unit with 2 6" Pioneer or Jenson 2 ways in kick panels and 2 Pioneer 6x9 3 ways in the back with just a 8" JL sub powered probably by a 300 or 400 watt 1 channel amp
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1985 Olds Cutlass Supreme - 231/th200c/2.41 peg leg - winter beater
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Psyco Diver 69
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 3:17 pm |
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Joined: Sun Sep 21, 2003 1:20 am Posts: 207 Images: 8 Location: South NJ
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Agreed, My 300watt USAccoustics claimed 150 watt per channel but it knocked harder than my friends Rockford 500 watt amp, and we switched amps to make sure
_________________ Jake 19/m
1972 Olds 442 - 350/th350/3.73 posi - Project "C6 Killa"
1985 Olds Cutlass Supreme - 231/th200c/2.41 peg leg - winter beater
1972 Olds Cutlass- Parts car
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Brando
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:01 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2003 3:58 pm Posts: 3166 Images: 29 Location: Michigan, USA
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Voltage X Amps = Watts
That is how they derive these peak ratings, they run their amps the highest that they can (some are even rated at 17 volts!), and they give out these bs ratings that the only way it would ever happen is if you plugged the amp into your house outlet.
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Brando
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 7:04 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2003 3:58 pm Posts: 3166 Images: 29 Location: Michigan, USA
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88delta88 wrote: I had a pyramid 600 watt bridgeable amp for a long time. It was bullet proof. It worked great, but it claimed 600watts! Even though I bet it wasnt even delivering 100 watts of rms. I almost guarantee it didnt produce 100 watts. I wonder if one would call that "false advertising"
It can't be called "false advertising" because they don't actually give you the voltage that they test there amps at to get these "peak" ratings. Only the higher quality amps give that info out because they got nothin' loose except make you
I would imagine Pyramid amps are tested at around 120 volts...
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_________________ 1999 Oldsmobile Intrigue GLS 1987 Oldsmobile Delta 88 Royale
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strokercutlass
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Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2003 9:00 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jun 09, 2003 12:17 am Posts: 378 Images: 13 Location: Wis
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another thing I've been told is that alot of the imported amps ( aka cheapo amps ) are rated differently than over here, at least in the offbrand amps....that they're rated in european wattage, which is supposedly different than the ratings specified over here...whether its true or not, i dunno...probably goes along with that solid main web 403, or the dreaded 442 cubic inch Olds engine...
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69 Olds Cutlass S
70 Olds Vista Cruiser Wagon
72 Olds Cutlass S, 12:1 470 stroker, JM40 solid lifter cam, TH400, 3500 10" PTC stall, 4.11 posi
74 442 455/TH350
79 Cutlass 455/TH375 sleeper
'97 GMC Sierra Ext Cab 9" lift w/ 37's
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