Just got a 99 Intrigue that came with a little problem. The two outside flashers dont want to flash. The passenger side will stay lit with no flash when turned on. The drivers side does squat whenever. All bulbs are brand new. The two front middle ones work fine along with the rears.

My main question is where is the flasher? Is the blinker flasher tied into the hazard flasher? Thats the only one I hear clicking so... I'd rather replace it first before finding out its not it anyways and have to start digging through the front wire harness.

I've heard these cars were bad about the blinkers going on the fritz, true?

BTW, I just changed the fluid too, so I dont want to hear about it.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Hi StngKlr, hello everyone,

Welcome to TOC.


Not much of a description, so I'll answer your questions.


The following quote is from a similar thread that also contains a reference to "blinker fluid".

You are not the only one to get sidetracked by such a reference.


Yes.


Not likely.

Regards, Norm

My mom has a 98 intrigue and I have a 99 intrigue. Neither one has had a blinker problem.

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Brando

Thanx for the info guys. I guess I'll try to track down a new flasher assembly. It dosent look like it will be cheap. Just to make sure, the "flasher assembly" is the hazard and cruise buttons that are in the dash right? I have to replace this right?

Again, thanx a bunch.

Hi StngKlr, All,

Go into your local parts supplier and buy 1 turn signal flasher, and 1 four way flasher. Should be under $10 US, each.

In your fuse panel, there should be two flashers that look just like the ones you just bought. Unplug them and replace them with the new ones.

Regards, Norm

unfortunatly norm these cars dont use your typical turn/hazard flasher we'rre used to
i've fixed this a few times mostly on pontiac grand am's, old alero's 97-01
the hazard button in your dash (red triangle) is actually the flasher unit, i believe that the intrigue is identical in this way to the others...
most of the dash trim pannels just snap into place, and the switch snaps into the back of the panel, but some will pop out without removing the dash panel it's in, just pry out on the switch bezel
yes there are two different flasher circuits in the unit and it seems that it's only the turn that goes bad (all of my cases have anyway...including Al's wifes 01 GAGT)

you also may try pulling it out and while it's plugged in twist.bend the unit...if it works ya may be able to pop it apart and resolder all the joints

look at the top of this link, your car isnt listed but GM got off lightly on this one, but there may be a new TSB/ NHTSA recall on your model
http://www.carcomplaints.com/Chevrolet/ ... ions.shtml

hope i could help...
ya could follow Norms advice and give the parts guys some fun...

Yes, the hazards and turn signals are on the same flasher.

REMOVAL PROCEDURE
1. Remove the LH Instrument Panel (IP) insulator.
2. Remove the steering column filler panel.
3. Grasp the hazard and turn signal flasher and slide the flasher to the right to release the flasher tabs from the slots on the BCM bracket.
4. Disconnect the electrical connector from the hazard and turn signal flasher.

INSTALLATION PROCEDURE
1. Connect the electrical connector to the hazard and turn signal flasher.
2. Position the flasher to the BCM bracket, then slide the flasher to the left to secure the flasher tabs into the retaining slots on the bracket.
3. Install the steering column filler panel.
4. Install the LH P insulator.



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Brando

ahhh so it isnt like the damn GA's and Alero's
it is a seperate all in one module...
thanks brando for clarifying that

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lol

Hi StngKlr, Brando, Turbocharged400sbc, All,


Thanks for the corrections.

What years did they change? Did the change have anything to do with the added third brake light?

Do the turn signals, 4 ways, and brake lights all still go thru the turn signal switch?


If he followed my advice, and he didn't show an "attitude" he would walk out of the shop with the correct parts, and could possibly have them installed, gratis.

If one goes into a "real" auto parts supplier, one can expect honest answers to honest questions, and the correct part for the application.

Regards, Norm

Thanks for all the help guys.

Yeah I got to the flasher assembly in about 5.7 seconds last weekend. 2 screws and everythig else just pops out. Alot easier than the Camaro that has a "convience center" that is hardly so lol.

I'll try to jiggle/shake it around and see what happens first, then hunt one down. I wonder how much this little bastid is gonna cost? Hopefully the rig method will work. I've talked to my neighbor who has an Alero and he has had to do the same rig to the flasher unit to get it his to work, this after many trips to the dealership to get it fixed so...

Oh, btw, when I went to the parts store to get the bulbs, I had the guy look up the correct flaser for the car and nothing came up. So thats what got me thinking that something was fishy right off the bat. You guys confirmed my suspicions about an all-in-one unit for the flasers and hazards.

Again, I appreciate all the info and help on the matter. TOC rules.

Alright, here we go...

The GM Part Number for the flasher is 12450054

If you go to gmpartsdirect.com (a GM dealer located in NC that sells parts online, usually cheaper than local dealer here in MI) and look that part number up, you'll see it is $6.80. Plus $9.95 shipping and handling, and it is $16.75.

Now, doing a cross reference on that part number on NAPA's web site, and it shows part number EP28, which happens to be $15.29.


And typing in EP28 at autozone.com...well...that didn't show anything so forget them..

Typing in EP28 at partsamerica.com comes up at $17.99

So $15-18 depending on where you shop.

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Brando

i dont know but i know many of the car/trucks went to digital flashers (Haz/turn) and many to make a lamp out detection feature easier to apply
i would approximate this to when they went to the full OBD II and went to a full serial buss data system to the BCM (which normally drives the lamp out features all the way to controlling the timed headlights to auto dimming interior lights) sooo 96/97+? (generalizing here...high end models almost always get updates earlier)


yes the flasher unit is just a digitally controlled flasher to alow precise timing for the BCM to calculate current/load on the individual side turn signals, brakes and hazards, though the diagnostic is not run with the hazards as it is used less than the turn signals and brake/marker/headlights. I believe it was in 98 that the new data buss system had all of the light power circuits fed through the BCM's quadrivers
the digital flashers are also required for the new LED tailight equipped cars/trucks/suvs
the new CAN networks are even more modularized for diagnostic redundancy but allowing for less wires and a better overal system design



Very true, a salesman with a good brainbox is a definate benifit and usually found at the "real" parts stores, and and for the benifit of those reading this, realize they arent all national chains...we have IWI (2 locations) out here and they carry EVERY ACDelco part i've ever needed, so far *knocks on wood* make a few friends at a reputable repair facility and they can often tell you the independants [jobbers] that specialize in what your looking for
the newer cars though almost as "shadetree" repairable as past cars, but predomantly the parts are oem source only...the alero/GA in dash hazard/flasher unit i have only found through ACDelco...and it seems out here that only the commercial oriented stores have listings...and even then, 50/50 it's an order item.

oh and as brando showd's it never hurts to shop around...i've gotten OEM repl Modines from the dealer (sometimes) cheaper than the modines at a jobber.

Git r dun!