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 Post subject: Quad 4 2.3 DOHC
PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:26 am 
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andrewk, u seem to know ur stuff about engines ...

I've got a problem with one of my cars, and maybe you could offer some advice, or point me to where I can find some info.

I bought a car for $700 about 2 weeks ago. It's a '89 Cutlass Calais S, with a Quad 4 engine in it.

It needed some work and stuff, but it seemed healthy enough. Come to find out, the danged head gasket is blown. (So I'm told.) I don't have any coolant in my oil or trans fluid. I don't have any oil in my coolant (or trans fluid). There's no steam or water coming from the tail pipe. The engine runs pretty strong, except it idles like sh*t.

The car had a leaking lower radiator hose, which I replaced. I then replaced the thermostat, and radiator cap.

The car runs great until after about 15-20 min. of running, the temp gauge goes to redline, and then the temp light comes on.

Anyway, since I couldn't find any leaks, I took it to a shop, and they did a leak test on it, and said it was leaking at the head gasket. If that's so, it must be a very small leak on the intake side, or maybe the exhaust, but somewhere that's soooo hot, that not even steam escapes.

They told me it was gonna cost $1000 labor because I needed a head gasket, I might need a new cylinder head, and they said the engine was "knocking a little" on the bottom end. (Which it does rattle kinda bad once it gets way up in temp, but runs normal for a noisy Quad 4 when it's cooled down.)

I've called around to a few places, asking about repairs to this engine. One shop I called told me that they wouldn't put head gaskets in Quad 4 engines. I asked them why, they said because 9 times outta 10, the gasket takes the cylinder head with it when it blows. So, I asked em about just dropping another cylinder head on it, and they said 9 times outta 10, the bottom end goes out afterwards.

So, I'm shot either way.

I have two options, one is to drop a new cylinder head and gasket on it, the other is to rebuild the engine (including head and stuff).

So, what would you recommend for a guy thats mechanically inclined, has a repair manual, has all the basic tools and a few specialty tools, and a gravel driveway outside to work on. (Ya, no garage or shop for me to work in.)

Would it be costly or difficult to rebuild this engine? I wish I had more info on the block itself, I know thats a factor in it, but lets assume to block is in fair shape.

THX!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:51 am 
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Hi TurboDriven, hello everyone,

Welcome to TOC.

In my opinion, this topic deserves it's own thread, with it's own name.

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I gave it its own topic here...

First, Welcome to TOC!


I dont have very much experience with the quad 4, so I couldnt really say one way or the other.

However, if you are going to rebuild, I wouldnt do it in the driveway. Maybe a buddy has a garage you can use, or maybe pay a lil rent for, but you will want a good clean work surface to do anything to it. It shouldnt be anymore difficult to rebuild than any other engine, but it all depends on what you are comfortable doing.

Hope this helps!

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