ok well i checked for fuel the way 87 delta suggested... and it seems i am not getting fuel to the engine. That is if i checked it correctly which i'm fairly certain i am. heres a pic....

The black cap on the fuel rail i unscrewed then pushed in on it with a pick/screwdriver and i got no fuel bursting out or even bubbling out at all. Let me know if i did it correctly i believe that is the only cap i saw on the fuel rail.

Why didn't you just say that in the beginning? If you had, you would have been given something similar to the following:

Using a "test light" or VOM, check the fuse and all the wiring/grounds, including the power at the pump. If the motor still does not work. Report back.

If the motor does work, remove the fuel supply hose and attach an appropriate pressure gauge. Check to see if it pumps fuel at the correct pressure, both before and, after the regulator.

Someone will post the correct pressure for your application.


In that case, a ⅜", or longer spark, would suggest a sound ignition system.

If you had pulled a plug, and did the same test with the wire attached to it, you would have verified that the spark occurred where it was needed.

Whether, or not, it occurred at the time it was needed, is a different discussion.


We'll be waiting.


That is an important clue. We should not have had to ask you a second time.


When I do, be assured, I will ask.

I am still searching your posts for anything I can work with.

Norm

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I wouldn't recommend spraying fuel all over the place as 87delta recommended. Rent or purchase a fuel pressure tester....they come in handy for situations like these.

Ignition On reading should be 40-47 PSI
Engine Idling should be 31-43 PSI

As for your fuel test port (Schrader valve).....not sure what you unscrewed and were pressing on back there....but my diagrams show nothing on the fuel rail there....except the bolts that hold it down to the intake manifold.

Anyways...I edited your picture to show the correct location of the test port:




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Brando

What you circled is what i unscrewed and tested. Thanks a lot for the pressure #'s. I'll rent a fuel pressure tester from autozone tomorrow. Thank you very much for the reply.

I didn't circle anything....the square....

I thought the blob in the back was what you were referring too?

Or is that a spec of dust?

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Brando

Anyways, so if what I put in the square is what you pushed in...and no fuel came out....your fuel pump obviously is not functioning.

I was going to say check the fuel pump relay, but....



So a faulty relay wouldn't cause a no start issue, in fact it be the opposite of what you have.

Reading through your story it sounds like the fuel pump was on it's last leg.

As norm posted above, check the wiring...make sure you're actually getting power to the pump. If you are, and you don't hear it running (for 2 seconds) when you turn the ignition to the on position....then you'll need to drop the tank and change the pump.

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Brando

haha i think that's actually snow and sorry SQUARE... haha. Yeah it seems like i'll be changing a fuel pump in the next few days in my driveway with snow on the ground since my other project, and engine hoist is hogging the garage for a while. Thanks for the replies. I'll likely be getting a fuel pump possibly from a friends skylark that he's junking but runs like a champ*although rusted beyond belief*. That depends on if autozone says the part numbers match up. Thanks again for all the replies.

Good thinking.

If it's free, take the vacuum modulator. Put it in a sandwich bag, and store it in a safe place.

You never know when it might come in handy.

Norm

Did norm say to change the pump?

Norm

Nope, he said to check the wiring. Which is what I was referring to, but they got connected to my advice. As I said, if he's getting power back there and the pump isn't running at all....well....

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Brando

As I thought. Thanks for the clarification.


Then the pump can be removed, and "bench" tested.

Norm

OK well theres another question i have........

ok on this picture next to the intake manifold and before the throttle assembly there are 2 vacuum hoses one which seems to be for cruise control and the one to the right pops off every now and then and splurts out gas when it pops out and connects to the front half on the fuel pressure regulator. I was wondering what would cause this or if it's an indication of something. The fuel pump was just replaced and i have fresh gas in it along with a new fuel filter as well. and i know for a fact that the old fuel pump was bad because it did not turn on at all and the new one humms as is should. now the car turns on but every now and then that "vacuum" seems to build up a lot of pressure and it pops off splurting out a bit of gas. Is this a possible indication of a faulty fuel pressure regulator.
thanks a lot
-dave-

just edited my last post.

Are you sure it is gas it squirts out? Or coolant? In the picture, are you speaking of the metal line with the screw on end, or the black plastic one with the rubber end?