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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:09 pm 
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Sounds like you're on the right track, clogged up catalytic converter.
A video would be awesome though... :D

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 2:05 am 
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ok well this car never ceases to amaze me........ i got it started and it starts now every time and drives decent. Still seems a little rough and definately shakier than before..... it's also got a real HORRIBLE smell after i let it idle for about 15 minutes or so.... i hear that is a symptom of a "bad cat" or "clogged cat" which makes sense with the problems i had earlier as well. Anyone have any suggestions? i plan on unbolting the cat and running just a straight pipe since we don't do emissions where i live.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 1:03 am 
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Ok well today i cut out the catalytic converter and the car starts and drives as it should and if i let it run for a while i don't get the nasty smell anymore. Now i just have to get a pipe to put in place of the catalytic converter and pay a visit to the recycling center with the old cat. Hopefully the car starts acting right again otherwise i'm not sure if i can keep this as a daily driver. I'll let you guys know what happens in the next few days, once i get that pipe in there and actually drive it daily again.



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I hope it works out! I loved driving my mom's 1990 Delta 88 when she had it....



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Good to hear you've got this under control now. I wonder if the failing fuel pressure regulator caused your fuel pump to fail, and the cat?

Good to hear either way. You'll be getting some better mileage now too!



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 4:32 pm 
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88delta88 wrote:
Good to hear you've got this under control now. I wonder if the failing fuel pressure regulator caused your fuel pump to fail, and the cat?

Good to hear either way. You'll be getting some better mileage now too!


I was thinking that exact same thing myself. Since it was running way too rich with the bad regulator, it fouled the cat i assume, and possibly the bad regulator also caused the fuel pump to work too hard possibly? That's the only thing really i can think of that would cause it all to go basically at once.



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:51 am 
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Well ok guys since the other day when i got it running and thought the problems were gone.... the same thing started happening again... crank crank crank starts chugs.... "bogs out" smokes out the throttle.... here's a video does anyone have any clue as to where i should be looking? my past issues with the car were clogged cat, dead fuel pump, malfunctioning fuel pressure regulator.. http://s41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/ ... inevid.flv

Has anyone ever experienced anything similar to this? excuse my yelling i was yelling to my 12 year old bro who couldn't hear me that well.

The video is of the car attempting to start and dying then smoking out the intake then it does start but still doesn't exactly sound right. This was a few days ago and these same symptoms started up again today when i went to drive it to a friends house.



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Well, the smoking & pop you see coming out of the intake happens on my car aswell. If you dont successfully start the first time, and happen to land right before the compression stroke on a cylinder, the engine rolls back, and it sounds like a "QUACK" when the compressed air escapes. Mine has always done this, so I wouldnt think this is the cause of your problem.

It is running like crap though. Sounds flooded to me... Anyone else?



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:29 pm 
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88delta88 wrote:
Well, the smoking & pop you see coming out of the intake happens on my car aswell. If you dont successfully start the first time, and happen to land right before the compression stroke on a cylinder, the engine rolls back, and it sounds like a "QUACK" when the compressed air escapes. Mine has always done this, so I wouldnt think this is the cause of your problem.

It is running like crap though. Sounds flooded to me... Anyone else?


funny you should say the flooded thing as well because that's what it sounds like to me as well but i didn't know that was possible with fuel injection. But there is one thing i did notice while trying to start it up yesterday.... it sounded like sometimes the fuel pump would stay on after it was cranking and started chugging and would die. the hum would stay on until i turned the key back on. Could this possibly be a relay problem? This has happened a few other times and it would explain the "flooded"



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Thats normal for the fuel pump to be working while your cranking. Mine did it too. If you think it's flooding out, hold the pedal to the floor and try and crank it. This stops the fuel flow to the engine. But, as soon as it catches let off it. I wouldn't let your 12 year old brother do this, for obvious reasons :lol:


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87Delta wrote:
Thats normal for the fuel pump to be working while your cranking. Mine did it too. If you think it's flooding out, hold the pedal to the floor and try and crank it. This stops the fuel flow to the engine. But, as soon as it catches let off it. I wouldn't let your 12 year old brother do this, for obvious reasons :lol:


well the fuel pump would continue working even after the car had died. I'll try holding the gas because i've had a few people come by and take a look with me and they all said it reminded them of a carb'd car getting too much gas. It kind of makes sense actually because after i get it started it runs like crap for a few minutes then it goes to how it should sound.



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You're positive you dont have any codes in there? So you're saying it runs good after it warms up. Have you taken it for a drive yet? I am wondering if once the computer switches from warm up mode, if the engine acts properly.



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I have taken the car for a drive and it drives as it should. But since yesterday when i tried starting it now it does what is in the video but without the starting. The nearest autozone is about 15 minutes away and i can't tow it that far.



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You've got me... Theres gotta be some more clues around here somewhere...



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88delta88 wrote:
You've got me... Theres gotta be some more clues around here somewhere...


I'm leaning towards it's getting too much fuel.... i don't know it's getting really frustrating asking friends for rides everywhere. Anyone have any idea where i should start looking?



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