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Hey Psyco:
Just noticed in your sig, 3.73 rear. I didn't know 3.73 came in Olds.
Is it a Ch*v rear end? Either way its a good gear. I thought Olds went from 3.42 to 3.91. '64 and earlier had a 3.64 that was a perfect street strip gear for the 324", 371", and 394" engines.
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Almost all 442sof any year got 3.73s standard. Heck my dad's friend bought a 69 442 W-30 brand new back in the day and got the optional 4.68 geared rear end, yea you rear right 4.68!



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Heck my dad's friend bought a 69 442 W-30 brand new back in the day and got the optional 4.68 geared rear end, yea you rear right 4.68!

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If you look really hard you could find a 350, 403, 455, etc in good running condition for well under $1000 and swap it in. I bought my 455 for $400
A stock, smogger 455 would absolutely out run any stock 307 and you wouldn't have any trouble lighting up the tire(s).
But probably the easiest thing to do would be to swap out your rear gears for something steeper. But I still doubt you'll get the performance your looking for.
I installed 3.73 gears in my '87 (when it still had the Y code 307) and after doing a good tune up and fixing the initial timing correctly I could get it to roast the tires by doing a brake stand. But it still would never light them up by just mashing the gas.
I'd do a basic tune up on the engine too just to make sure its where it should be.


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Almost all 442sof any year got 3.73s standard. Heck my dad's friend bought a 69 442 W-30 brand new back in the day and got the optional 4.68 geared rear end, yea you rear right 4.68!


Hi c_creations, BigBlockOlds, Psyco Diver 69, Hi All
Had something come up that had to be handled. Took a while.

Big Block: My only experience with a 307 ("G" body) is that mine is a total slug after driving one of my coupes or my Ch*vy II, but seems peppy after driving my El Camino or Cutlass. It does have a low first gear in its 200 4R, but it has a 2.6 something rear end.
Is your 87 a "G" body? His is a "B" body.
Thanks for reminding me. First, basic tune up using OEM type parts, (I forget that a lot of people don't know thats a given), followed by a gear change then an engine change.
A 455 is the best choice followed by 425,403 and 350. Doing it yourself would keep the total under budget, but I got the impression he's got to farm it all out.

c_creations: You didn't post back about how much of the work you can do yourself. Also, maybe, I misread your first. Did you want to go fast or just light up your tires?
After one has spent most of fifty years trying to maintain maximum traction for maximum acceleration, intentional tire spin is an unfamiliar concept.

Psyco: Thanks for the reply. The more questions I ask, the more I learn.

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what are your thoughts, 88coupe, on the 425 cadillac engine? I had one of those in my 79caddy... I liked the motor, but had no interest in performance at the time I owned the car. I hear it can be quite the hod-rodder's choice.



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what are your thoughts, 88coupe, on the 425 cadillac engine?

Hi 88delta88, Hi All
My 425 is an Olds. I don't know anything about Cad engines, Sorry :(
My recent Ch*v experience is basic warmed over street engines.
I do remember changing 3 Ch*v water pumps while my partner in the next stall did 1 Cad pump, and he had faster hands than mine.
I've always thought the important stuff to know is the stuff that works on everything
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i always thought the 425 was cadillac only... Parts counter guys would always look at me strange when I said it was a 425... :-) Learn something new everyday!



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i always thought the 425 was cadillac only... Parts counter guys would always look at me strange when I said it was a 425... :-) Learn something new everyday!

Hi 88delta88, Hi all
After my post I recalled some Eldorados came with "corporate engines" which were, in reality, Olds 425s. Should have shown up in the parts guys computers.
My 425 came out of a '65 "98", and I have interchanged parts with my 455s as they are both BBO.
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or the wall gives way and you end up making a drive-thru for the occupants of the building...

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this goes to you norm. sorry i have been busy with work and havent had time for my personal life. I started a drag race today and one guy peeled out for about 100 ft which he lost and i dont want ifinant amounts of rubber burning off the wheels i just want it when i gunn it i want to leave some what of a mark behind but not my rubbers. i plan on getting hydraulics and really pimping it out but i dont know where to go for that, guess ill start asking around. i also plan this summer to go and get dual exhaust put on. so that should make it go a little better and i just need some more tips so tell me what oyu think.



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this goes to you norm. sorry i have been busy with work and havent had time for my personal life. I started a drag race today and one guy peeled out for about 100 ft which he lost and i dont want ifinant amounts of rubber burning off the wheels i just want it when i gunn it i want to leave some what of a mark behind but not my rubbers. i plan on getting hydraulics and really pimping it out but i dont know where to go for that, guess ill start asking around. i also plan this summer to go and get dual exhaust put on. so that should make it go a little better and i just need some more tips so tell me what oyu think.

Hi c_creations, BigBlockOlds, hello all
I've had the same problem. I go back to work after 6 months off and then it hits the fan. No time for anything.
I thought I had something going on a gear change for you, but the guy is nowhere to be found.
We still need an idea how much of the heavy mechanical work you can do yourself, and also if you or someone who is familiar with your car and rear end can describe exactly what you have, we'll know more about parts availability and maybe I can still find something. If not we can try ROP.
Dual exhaust are good, and will work well in concert with lower gears. If your right exhaust manifold is like the one on my Cutlass I'd be checking salvage yards for one off a dual exhaust car before you do the install. One thing to remember, don't let anyone talk you into using headers. Unless you decide to get serious about racing, manifolds will do a better job on the street.
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One thing to remember, don't let anyone talk you into using headers. Unless you decide to get serious about racing, manifolds will do a better job on the street.
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Explain please? :)
I'd like to know why manifolds will do better on the street...

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Lemme jump in here a minute....
Brando, I'll try to help ya out here :D

On a street car, theres more concern with driveability and low maintenance than there is outright speed. Headers sometimes have clearance issues, they tend to leak, and on a car tuned for street only type useage (smaller exhaust, lower RPM range), can work just as well as a header. Headers can gain HP, but only on an engine which is designed to use them. A stock engine with a set of headers compared to manifolds may show some improvements in HP and torque, but it will most likely be minimal enough to not justify using headers, especially by the time you consider getting the exhaust made which will bolt to the headers, getting them fit in the car (especially if theres alot of clutter in the engine compartment), and going thru the trouble to re tune the engine (as it may have less backpressure and therefore require carb or EFI tuning.

C Creations, one problem I see in your planning. You said you want the car to be faster, but are talking about hydraulics,etc. This will add ALOT of weight to the car, especially in the rear. More weight will require you to keep the rear end stiffer, which means less traction and the possibility of wheelhop. To get traction, the weight must transfer from the front to the rear (front end lifting,rear end squatting), and if you have the rearend extremely stiff, the car will not hook well. You need to make a decision regarding which you want to do more... pimp it out with hydraulics and such or build it up for more power to race it. If you do some hard looking thru the internet, you'll be hard pressed to find cars which run hydraulics and the like, and also run extremely fast...its pretty much one or the other, unless you go with airbags instead of hydraulics...THEN theres a little more room to play around on both sides of the line.



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^^^^ya what he said
those cars a huge!!!! the 307 was not made to do burn out`s
it was made for cruisin, my buick had the same block never one prob with it
you want power balls out power what that guys said new block new tranny new rear end
don`t do that red neck crap
people will just laugh at ya
and who the hell cares if ya can`t do a burn out!! there`s more to life than burn out`s



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"there's more to life than burn out's" lol
Cars, Girls, Sex, Money, Drugs, Music! lol jk...



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"there's more to life than burn out's" lol
Cars, Girls, Sex, Money, Drugs, Music! lol jk...


no drugs,sex yes please,money sure,music i like
cars love em all
well ya i don`t see doin burn out`s as a socialy accpetable thing,what ya got to do it or be branded a chump???
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