Hi oldsman83, Brando, hello all,
As Turkey is not a "Third World Country" I believe your regulations are the same as here.
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........ they have the special device for recharging... briefly they dont use old technique ......... that would be the R-12 ? .........converting it to r-134 would then be the old technique ......... ?
The "old technique" was to release it into the air.
The machine is used for recovery of all refrigerant from the system before opening it up for repair or parts replacement.
After the system is repaired and is leak free, the refrigerant is recycled back into the system along with new R-12 as needed.
R-134 in an old system is the alternative. It requires some system modifications to be as efficient as R-12, but, without the mods, it's usually the cost effective way to go.
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.......... they banned ........... and stopped making it, but it still is available in limited quantities (not supposed to be) and very expensive ..........
They stopped manufacturing AC and refrigeration systems that use environmentally unfriendly refrigerants.
Although heavily regulated, R-12 is still in limited production (no longer in the little white cans for consumer use) and readily available to qualified HVAC Contractors to keep existing units in good repair.
It cannot be added until the system has been repaired and is leak free.
Note: If a system is low on refrigerant, it is leaking into the atmosphere.
The reason it's not sold to the public is that most (if not all) would continue adding it instead of repairing the leak, and the intent is to keep it out of the atmosphere.
I don't know what the fine is for releasing it into the air, and I don't want to know.
The prices are higher, due to limited production, but are still far less than the bootleg stuff Brando refers to.
Regards, Norm
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